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    Why don't you offer an answer this? If "getting...

    Why don't you offer an answer this? If "getting high and getting zombied out listening to music" is a bad thing, then what good things should those people be doing instead? Can you give an example or...
  3. Mind isn't an emergent property of the particles....

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    My take is that the mind-body problem that occurs with dualism is still present with panpsychism. Just that the connection between mind and brain is transferred to a level...
  4. I don't think I said anything that remotely...

    I don't think I said anything that remotely suggests EM energy or pantheism or a "mysterious force". You have very different associations to the word, and somehow that overrode all my effort to say...
  5. Copernicus, I think your idea of a systemic...

    Copernicus,

    I think your idea of a systemic layer is an intriguing idea. But I don't think it explains the emergence of mind. To me, it seems a more complicated way of asserting that "mind" (as...
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    Poll: Snopes...

    Snopes thinks that tweet is fake.
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    It's possible to save one life by taking another....

    It's possible to save one life by taking another.

    Sometimes the best possible outcome, when somebody is trying to use a deadly weapon on someone, is that the "somebody" with the weapon dies and...
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    Poll: I agree too. And I think there was defiance of...

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    I agree too. And I think there was defiance of the bystanders on top of that. The defense twisted it into "they distracted him". And, no... their "emotionality" made him feel goaded so...
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    Poll: They are. They aided and abetted a murder. So I...

    They are. They aided and abetted a murder. So I wonder if we'll see their trials?
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    The materialist answers so far look like evasions...

    The materialist answers so far look like evasions of a problem - that science can only describe what's measurable. A "thing" has to have "extension in space" or science isn't able to know it's there....
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    The answer is Maybe. No one knows exactly how...

    The answer is Maybe. No one knows exactly how conscious experience "arises" from material processes, or even if it "arises" from them. Possibly the brain is more like a transceiver than a generator....
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    Poll: Yes. I hope that's considered an aggravating...

    There were children in the small crowd who witnessed what he did.[/QUOTE]

    Yes. I hope that's considered an aggravating factor. Maybe it'd send the message, to some ears, "you police damn well...
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    Poll: He's been found guilty of all 3 charges. He'll...

    If the fullest extent is given, all together those three add up to 24 to 34 years if consecutive, about 10 if concurrent.[/QUOTE]

    I think 2nd degree murder carries a max sentence of 40...
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    The whole of human existence isn't the topic. ...

    The whole of human existence isn't the topic.


    Yeah, why not? You could start a thread where that'd be the topic.

    I'd be very interested in the answers. I too have wondered what secularists...
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  16. And about comparative grossness... What we need...

    And about comparative grossness... What we need to do is put boxes on the heads of males who spit. Spitting on the pavement is pretty damn gross. This ejection of bodily fluids in public is a...
  17. If women are tossing tampons aside outdoors then...

    If women are tossing tampons aside outdoors then I guess there'd be a reason to think it's nasty, in a similar way to men walking around spitting. But with tampons it's mostly the litter that is the...
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    Poll: Yeah, but then (in the view of THEIR narrative)...

    Yeah, but then (in the view of THEIR narrative) polite society isn't protected against the "thugs" if we do anything to change policing. The reason some persons in the thread need to blame Floyd for...
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    Yes, I still agree with all your points. The...

    Yes, I still agree with all your points. The "bear responsibility" bit is to do with the overall setup. Parents can't determine all of a kid's choices, but they start that life forward and their...
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    I think gods are a way of depicting a world...

    I think gods are a way of depicting a world that's not devoid of mind. Apparently the ancient Greeks didn't have the same "in here" and "out there" duality that moderns have. So not everything that...
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    I don't know how to go about justifying any EoG...

    I don't know how to go about justifying any EoG arguments rationally. I just am not impressed with anyone's rationalist arguments, so if I play the game of rationalist arguments it's always to...
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    That combo matters. But the foreknowledge is...

    That combo matters.

    But the foreknowledge is just knowledge, not a causal force. An event "z" will happen, and that event is the end result of all the circumstances and choices that precede it....
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    Yes, I agree with this. If there was such thing...

    Yes, I agree with this. If there was such thing as psychism, and I were psychic, and I foresaw an event, it doesn't cause the event. It does not put me into the cause-effect chain of those events.
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    What will replace religion? My hope is it'll be a...

    What will replace religion? My hope is it'll be a more science-centric culture, with due respect for people's "spirituality".

    "But science does bad things too" is what your post suggests.

    No,...
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    The only reasonable response, when anyone focuses...

    The only reasonable response, when anyone focuses on negatives in religion but they disagree, is they should SHOW how religion's not so bad.
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