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1. ## Thread: Logical Falacies

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### Circular Reasonung

p1 a is true if b is true
p2 b is true if a is true
c A and B are both true.

On the face of it the conclusion may seem valid, but there is no independent truth of either p1 and p2.

The theist...
2. ## Thread: Logical Falacies

by steve_bank
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### False Dichotomy

False dichotomy is routuinely used by politians. An agrgu ent crafted to disparge an issue by slective comparisons. A good example is the conservative arguments against Medicare fot=r all. Selective...
3. ## Thread: The Bible speaks the truth therefore God exists?

by steve_bank
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### https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning

Circular reasoning

Circular reasoning (Latin: circulus in probando, "circle in proving";[1] also known as circular logic) is a logical...
4. ## Thread: What was it like internationally when the Soviet Union fell?

by steve_bank
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### Iran is far more liberal and democratic than...

Iran is far more liberal and democratic than Saudi Arabia. Iran has selections that can actually mean something in terms of policies.

Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are corrupt decadent anachronistic...
5. ## Thread: The Bible speaks the truth therefore God exists?

by steve_bank
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### The circular argument: Round and round it goes....

The circular argument: Round and round it goes. Circular arguments can be crafted to be convoluted and difficult to follow masking the fact that it is circular. Often seen in political rhetoric.

A...
6. ## Thread: The Bible speaks the truth therefore God exists?

by steve_bank
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### The image of a whirligig with kids having a great...

The image of a whirligig with kids having a great time going around in circles.

One of the basic arguments.

How do I know god exists
Because got is in the bible.
How do I know the bible is...
7. ## Thread: Fine-Tuning Argument vs Argument From Miracles

by steve_bank
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### A creationist I knew pointed out the window and...

A creationist I knew pointed out the window and said It is obvious a giod created it all!'. A variation of 'the universe can not possibly exist without a god, therefore god exists'.

Fine tuning...
8. ## Thread: Is Flat-Earthism any Wackier than Other Flavors of Religious Woo?

by steve_bank
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### I went to Catholic schools. The RCC has always...

I went to Catholic schools. The RCC has always been a mix of rational science and theism. In the 90s the position on evolution became that it is part of god's plan. Other denominations have followed...
9. ## Thread: The Dunb Logic Thread

by steve_bank
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### if then else is part of logic. Conditional logic....

The If/then structure is more of an observation, than an argument. If I observe the Earth is flat, what is the list of possible following observations. If the Earth is flat, I will able to look over...
10. ## Thread: The Dunb Logic Thread

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11. ## Thread: On not working too much

by steve_bank
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### From his bio AE worked out things in dreams....

From his bio AE worked out things in dreams. Tesla as well. AE credited an uncle with teaching him creative visualization as a kid.

For people like AE it is not work, it is who they are.

As...
12. ## Thread: Flat Earth

by steve_bank
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### If I did not have a sense of ethics I would start...

If I did not have a sense of ethics I would start writing books and fleece the sheep.
13. ## Thread: The Bible, in Order: but on whose orders? Some significant reorganizations of Scripture

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### In part the books are dated by things like...

In part the books are dated by things like language and word usage, references to architecture, and references to known history.

From the Oxford Comment ray there is an architecture reference in...
14. ## Thread: The Bible, in Order: but on whose orders? Some significant reorganizations of Scripture

by steve_bank
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### It sounds like a site I looked at on the order of...

It sounds like a site I looked at on the order of the books. It used the term.

I wish people would post sites used to create a summary.
15. ## Thread: Flat Earth

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### Good point, I have not looked at it that way...

The real problem isn't the lack of education, it's the supreme confidence these people have in the face of their lack of education.

"I don't understand the physics, therefore the physics must be...
16. ## Thread: The Observing Self vs The Thinking Self

by steve_bank
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### From a cognitive psychology clqass I rember...

From a cognitive psychology clqass I rember people tend to be able to quickly memorixize and hold up to around a 7 item list.

There is short term and long term memopry. It takes time to put...
17. ## Thread: The Dunb Logic Thread

by steve_bank
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### Darn it all to heck, looks like I made a dumb...

Darn it all to heck, looks like I made a dumb argument. But then that is the thread.
18. ## Thread: The Dunb Logic Thread

by steve_bank
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### The Dunb Logic Thread

The science forum has the dumb question thread. This is for dumb logic. No need to srart a new thread for every idea. Lump it all together.

for example.

If a conclusion follows from a premise...
19. ## Thread: Flat Earth

by steve_bank
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### During the campaign I thought surely there could...

During the campaign I thought surely there could not be many people who woul fall for Trump's cpn job. I was wrong.

I thought the same on FE until the reponses on actual meetings.

Democracy is...
20. ## Thread: Highway Crossings for Wildlife

by steve_bank
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### In Maine moose car collisions are a hazard,...

In Maine moose car collisions are a hazard, especially in tourist season.

Author: Www.Facebook.Com/Christianmilneil/?Fref=Ts

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21. ## Thread: Flat Earth

by steve_bank
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### Flat Earth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth#Flat_Earth_Society

In 1956, Samuel Shenton set up the International Flat Earth Research Society (IFERS), better known as the Flat Earth Society from Dover,...
22. ## Thread: Young people turning to alternative religions and woo-woo

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### Fun is woo of the highest order. One does a...

Fun is woo of the highest order. One does a ritual like playing a game and somehow it is 'fun'.

I have no idea what fun means. I generally always felt good, even when doing hard difficult work....
23. ## Thread: I believe All Things are eternal and necessary. God is neither.

by steve_bank
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### The odds arte not incalculable, they are...

The odds arte not incalculable, they are meaningless. To calculate odds you have to enumerate possibilities.

The universe is. Causality applies including quantum probabilities. There is no basis...
24. ## Thread: Young people turning to alternative religions and woo-woo

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### It goes far back. Movies in the 30s-40s were...

It goes far back. Movies in the 30s-40s were filled with the superbatural.

Somerset Mall's book and movie Lost Horizon about a secret valley in the Himalayas where people age slowly. Many other...
25. ## Thread: Emergency Death Procedure: Unburden the conscience

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### I had a near death experience with heart failure....

I had a near death experience with heart failure. Did I panic and scream and worry? Not really.

It was rather tranquil. When the mid senses death the brain probably accommodates. And no I wasn't...
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