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  1. What would be unfair? That the candidate with 300...

    Do you think it's more fair to decide an election on the basis of where the voters are, not the numbers? If 500 million lived in California, 50 million in the rest of the states, and a candidate wins...
  2. Do you think it's more fair to decide an election...

    So it's one state one vote?[/QUOTE]

    Do you think it's fair to decide an election just because California has more people?[/QUOTE]

    Do you think it's more fair to decide an election on the basis...
  3. Hiroshima and Nagasaki also included a mix of...

    Jesus, Loren. Whenever you think you have some gotcha you become blind to basic reasoning. You can still invade Europe without specifically targeting civilians like we did in Dresden and other German...
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    Poll: No, you are talking about something you don't...

    Here's another reason to support the rules in question: they are truth-preserving. Whenever the premises are true, the conclusion is guaranteed to be true.

    For example, consider the following...
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    Poll: Here's another reason to support the rules in...

    Here's another reason to support the rules in question: they are truth-preserving. Whenever the premises are true, the conclusion is guaranteed to be true.

    For example, consider the following...
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    Poll: Yes, there is. The connection is that applying...

    Yes, there is. The connection is that applying the logic rules I used in the argument, the conclusion follows from the premises.


    I don't know what you mean by "bootstrapped", but no serious...
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    Poll: You grossly misrepresent what I said. People...

    So mathematicians waste their time assessing rules without deciding which are correct. I gets better an better. [/quote]
    You grossly misrepresent what I said.
    People assess whether rules are...
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    Poll: I am being serious and blunt. In the environments...

    I am being serious and blunt. In the environments I worked in if you put forth the kind of reasoning you used to declare the moon is made of chees on a real problem you would be labeled incompetent....
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    Poll: No, no one "decides" what they are. Rather, one...

    Proper logic rules? Who decides what are proper logic rules?

    Ah, yes, I see, mathematicians do ...

    No, not for me, and obviously not for most people, here and anywhere. Never.
    EB[/QUOTE]
    ...
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    Poll: The conclusion follows from P1 and P2, as...

    You can not arbitrarily ignore one half of a contradiction p1 p2. In the conclusion the moon is made of chees is incorrect. There is no support in the premises to say the moon is cheese. Conclusion...
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    Poll: There is nothing to resolve. Contradictions are...

    I already did. In fact, every conclusion can be validly derived from a contradiction. In other words, anything follows from it. But for example:


    P1. It is not the case that the Earth is flat....
  12. Let's say so. That does not change the fact that...

    I'm sure if an American Indian wrote a history textbook, it would be a helluva lot differant than the ones you were taught from.[/QUOTE]

    Let's say so. That does not change the fact that there are...
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    Poll: It is not acceptable to make false and...

    Thanks, that will save me time.

    You're the typical specialist and unfortunately you're typical of the average academic. You haven't thought about any of the fundamental issues. Well, to be fair,...
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    Poll: I already did. In fact, every conclusion can be...

    I already did. In fact, every conclusion can be validly derived from a contradiction. In other words, anything follows from it. But for example:


    P1. It is not the case that the Earth is flat....
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    Poll: At the risk of another disagreement like in a...

    At the risk of another disagreement like in a previous thread, I would mentioned proofs by contradiction, though maybe ' premise ' is not the right word, in which case I would still say that from...
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    Poll: Sure you can have logical contradictions in the...

    You can not have logical contradictions in the premises.

    a = big
    !a = not big
    (a & !a) is always false logically. Where & is AND in Boolean and you probably call it conjunction.

    P1, p2, P3...
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    Poll: As usual, that is a gross misrepresentation of...

    LOL, you're getting into the right mood.

    I'm not interested in teaching you logic. You're not interested.

    I'm not interested publishing here and you yourself claimed whatever I might want to...
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    Poll: I don't know whether anyone is reading these...

    I don't know whether anyone is reading these posts other than thread participants, or whether someone else will read them eventually. Maybe, or maybe not. I do know that at least two thread...
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    Poll: Actually, you only give lectures, albeit vastly...

    LOL. You find it "personally interesting to talk about all these objections"!

    Apparently, not all objections and not with all those who raise objections.

    And obviously, by "talking" here, you...
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    Poll: Your failure to understand what others say is a...

    Your logic really sucks. I wouldn't have any reason to send a paper about the Bible being right or the Earth being less than 15000 years old.
    EB[/QUOTE]

    Your failure to understand what others say...
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    One should add just in case that while there are...

    And if 1 kid has vegan parents, chicken is off the menu, as is fish, shrimp, eggs or dairy.
    And if you get a Jainist kid? Then anything that grows underground is also verboten. Forget potatoes,...
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    Poll: True and nice example, but the bar is much lower...

    True and nice example, but the bar is much lower if one just wants a theorem that requires [b]what Speakpigeon calls[b] "mathematical logic". There is no need for first-order formalization for that.
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    Poll: It's like someone sending a paper to a serious...

    Thanks, you're making my point for me, Sir.

    Let's take a short moment to commemorate the contributions of such people as Copernicus, Galileo, Einstein. Today, they would be rejected "immediately",...
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    Poll: The fact that you consider your deliberately...

    The fact that you consider your deliberately obscure talk morally acceptable behavior is just a failure on your part. No matter, you said it is valid.


    No. I will not stop, as long as you attack...
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    Poll: First, obviously, I knew it literally is not the...

    First, obviously, I knew it literally is not the same thing to have a self-contradictory premise, or a premise that implies the negation of the other. But I know that it makes no relevant difference....
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