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  1. It has sort of been done with lesser documented...

    In order to do that, we'd first have to assume what you've been unable to prove: That the characters were real people, and the texts are authentic documents with real authors. Even assuming "someONE...
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    Kudos to the logic Lumpy, post #739 :beers: 1...

    Kudos to the logic Lumpy, post #739
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  3. I think we are at a stage surely, where their are...

    I think we are at a stage surely, where their are some expertise to scrutinize the texts as they do with forensic / psycological criminology. A biblical profiling if you will, on the main characters...
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    You would still call those reports of witnesses...

    You would still call those reports of witnesses in the quote as "hearsay" regardless. Besides I'm sure you know but not agree with the biblical theme .. after Jesus its now all in the waiting no...
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    I suppose I would wonder; if the the below would...

    Yes and it is the hearsay tale in the gospels that spurred investigation. Romans were damned anal about keeping records and there was no confirmation of the hearsay tales found. For example there is...
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    Well, I don't really call them "hearsay",.. as if...

    Well, I don't really call them "hearsay",.. as if it were something that's said, suddenly comes up in court ... as it does give a misleading or unfair impression, since "hearsay" is to be ignored as...
  7. I go along with pretty much of the above post,...

    I go along with pretty much of the above post, highlighting some of the various aspects to beliefs plus the interesting placebo effect.

    It does seem to me, as I previously thought in context (in...
  8. Good question. I have also wondered myself...

    Good question. I have also wondered myself sometime ago. This pretty much applies to a vast majority of believers who have not had those personal experiences imo. Simply put (as my ability allows),...
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    The scenario previously was: that it was a rumour...

    The scenario previously was: that it was a rumour ... before someone decided to act on it and investigate.



    The Gospels don't contradict each other, they are different from each other but all...
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    Well yes, more so when the witness just brings it...

    Well yes, more so when the witness just brings it up out-of-the-blue about what he or she heard someone say ... without any previous investigation (or some record to present), prior to that day in...
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    Indeed lol, however these things can be tested...

    Indeed lol, however these things can be tested (to both posts above) e.g. Dan's theory of the Annunaki based on Dr. Sitichins translation, who happened to be the "one and only" to read the related...
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    Cases are not (necessarily) solved in court,...

    Cases are not (necessarily) solved in court, which is not quite a good notion, to soley rely on the negation of the hearsay thing. IOW's for example Detectives or investigators usually act on...
  13. There maybe some but not all (a growing number...

    "How do I KNOW i'm really 400 miles up? How do i KNOW this is the actual view thru the window, not a tv screen?"
    If thgey are invested in the conspiracy, they will resist any effort to say, Look! ...
  14. Well they may change their minds if they are at a...

    Well they may change their minds if they are at a particular distance where they'd see a little more of the globe, a side-view, like the equater for example, the fisheye lens wouldn't matter.
  15. For the more well known of the F.E. individuals...

    For the more well known of the F.E. individuals who make vids, this would be more convincing than the current imo, there'd be no excuses when seen with their own eyes and floating around minus...
  16. Before it becomes this "religion" as you put it...

    Before it becomes this "religion" as you put it above, this can be solved .....

    Why not have one or two at a time go on-board a space flight/ mission (after a bit of preparation and training of...
  17. No dispute here, Christians would expect all of...

    No dispute here, Christians would expect all of the above.



    The contexts you make here was not my argument. (irrelevant in this case)
  18. Well I certainly wouldn't say that (underlined...

    Well I certainly wouldn't say that (underlined above) as it would also be my opinion as being unlikely. Funny enough, that's what I thought of the way its phrased in the line below - especially if...
  19. The top line, I don't get why you place this...

    The top line, I don't get why you place this point here. The group started small and it spread out i.e. Practically, the whole Roman empire got coverted, it couldn't be stopped! Jesus has had...
  20. To your side note: Well sure but if you became...

    To your side note:

    Well sure but if you became a believer of Jesus, it doesn't seem to feel that important a career anymore.
  21. In short, If all Romans refused to fight then...

    In short, If all Romans refused to fight then there'd be no empire! To take control of the Christians - you take over the church, IOW's. No wonder there's confusion among Christians and false...
  22. It must be a different Satan, I thought it was...

    It must be a different Satan, I thought it was the one in the bible.
  23. We can at least all agree, the notion of "Romans...

    We can at least all agree, the notion of "Romans never / rarely did these things" is not correct. (we don't have to agree on every aspect of course)
  24. Sounds quite a strange phenomenon, biblically....

    Sounds quite a strange phenomenon, biblically. Satanists not believing or behaving as according to Satan and... Christians not believing or behaving as according to Christ!
  25. Not if you're a true believer. You're basically...

    Not if you're a true believer. You're basically showing the same thing as I mentioned earlier.



    I see what you mean now. Indeed... besides the two (writings/records) you mentioned above, we...
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