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    It sounds the same. Only now you have a different...

    It sounds the same. Only now you have a different group to hang out with, try to look pious in front of them. Rather than a rush at the sight of an attractive lady, now that rush comes at the sight...
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    I'm pretty sure that Aquinas has much, much more...

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    Why would you not be qualified to debate with Aquinas? What degrees are required?[/QUOTE]
    I'm pretty sure that Aquinas has much, much more understanding of the Bible than I have. After...
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    There is a person that the Church recognizes as...

    There is a person that the Church recognizes as an expert on what the Bible says and means.... possibly even knowing the mind of God?

    It strikes me more as Christian schadenfreude, but hey that is...
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    ^ ^ Musk's idea is colonization so that Mars...

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    Musk's idea is colonization so that Mars becomes a "lifeboat" so humanity doesn't become extinct in a possible global catastrophe (possibly like the one that ended the cretaceous period).
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    Actually, I am a bit surprised at how fast these...

    I think you are mistaken. You could be right if we had to depend on government doing the job but there are individuals with the dream and means to accomplish it. Elon Musk has set it as his goal and...
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    Human nature. People like to feel special. If...

    Sure, I get that. But, if you already accept that the supernatural exists, why the attraction to a place where those who believe differently from yourself, will be eternally punished forever? That's...
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    I think you are mistaken. You could be right if...

    I think you are mistaken. You could be right if we had to depend on government doing the job but there are individuals with the dream and means to accomplish it. Elon Musk has set it as his goal and...
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    Organized religions, like any organization, keep...

    Organized religions, like any organization, keep the members in line with a carrot and a stick. In a business organization, the member gets a carrot of a paycheck for following the rules and the...
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    You seem to be conflating beliefs and actions....

    I still see "atheist Christian" as an oxymoron. Someone who espouses "the general moral principles attributed to Jesus" but not the divinity of Jesus could call themselves an "atheist humanist"...
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    I still see "atheist Christian" as an oxymoron....

    I still see "atheist Christian" as an oxymoron. Someone who espouses "the general moral principles attributed to Jesus" but not the divinity of Jesus could call themselves an "atheist humanist"...
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    I think a "Christian atheist" is stretching the...

    I think a "Christian atheist" is stretching the definition of Christian beyond the breaking point, sorta like someone calling themselves a "vegetarian that eats lots of meat".

    OTOH I can...
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    There are several proxies used for determining...

    No--this is specifically arctic temperature, not world temperature. I could imagine some tree ring data from such areas but what else will indicate the local temperature?[/QUOTE]
    There are several...
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    People like belonging to clubs that make them...

    People like belonging to clubs that make them feel special. That is why fraternities and sororities thrive, why people cheer on "their" sports team, etc. How much more special could someone feel than...
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    Actually there is data back a few billion years...

    It's 20 years after the end of the little ice age. I also suspect that's as far back as the data goes.[/QUOTE]
    Actually there is data back a few billion years (though far from detailed), a bit more...
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    Possibly Moogly was referring to a typical...

    Just to go right back on topic, would it be more accurate, I wonder, to call this The Great Exception, rather than The Great Contradiction?[/QUOTE]

    Possibly Moogly was referring to a typical...
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    Remez introduced a quote from Haldane's work (to...

    Remez introduced a quote from Haldane's work (to support his strawman) assuming that all atheists take his work as our 'bible' and agree with everything he wrote.


    Oh, and I don't seem to have...
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    Both Lion and Remez have a tendency to declare...

    That's not Haldane's point, and naturalism is not foundational to atheism.

    Buddhists, for instance, are mostly atheists, but they aren't naturalists.

    I'm firmly in the strong atheist camp,...
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    For starters, it uses a starting point as...

    How is this p-hacking? The graph shows the whole time frame where we have been burning fossil fuels to a substantial degree.[/QUOTE]

    For starters, it uses a starting point as reference just after...
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    That was a hundred "missing" stars in a full sky...

    But the article says that there are a hundred "missing stars". Your suggestion would be a real stretch for explaining just one missing star.

    The biggest problem I see is lack of information....
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    But the article says that there are a hundred...

    You can hold your thumb over your eye as long as you like, but how long does a dark object stay in line with a star when both objects are moving...[/QUOTE]

    It depends on the angle of traversal and...
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    I can see that you may think there is no reason...

    I can see that you may think there is no reason to think it isn't real if you have ignored or haven't bothered to read all the reasons that have been given.

    But by your standards, I could say that...
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    Of course they are. For the theist, anything that...

    Of course they are. For the theist, anything that isn't obvious is attributed to god or can be found in the holy book... No further attempt at understanding is necessary or maybe even sinful.
  23. Since you didn't specify those dots, I have to...

    I agree. But you seem to be not connecting some dots at the end there.[/QUOTE]
    Since you didn't specify those dots, I have to assume this was just a BS statement... either that or you assume I am a...
  24. Quite a few children have died or been crippled...

    Has it been?[/QUOTE]
    Quite a few children have died or been crippled because their parents refused common medical procedures because of their woo beliefs.

    Jihadists have killed "infidels"...
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    Sure. After life there something called death.

    Sure. After life there something called death.
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