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    We made it to safety. Joe Biden has said that he...

    We made it to safety. Joe Biden has said that he will try to renegotiate with Iran to get back on track with the agreement that Trump abandoned. Whether that is possible remains to be seen, but...
  2. Although I did take four years of Latin in high...

    Although I did take four years of Latin in high school, that was over half a century ago. So I haven't had to scan Latin verse for a very long time, but I did a lot of that in high school. And I...
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    I just want to thank both of you guys for...

    They'd do a lot more than that, but a lot less than launching their nukes (and China doesn't even have enough of them for MAD). But then again, it will not happen (and on Jan-20, everyone here will...
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    Sadly, Trump's Twitter account was permanently...

    Sadly, Trump's Twitter account was permanently taken down before I had a chance to tweet him my gratitude for his help in getting the Senate flipped to the Democratic Party. Without his trashing of...
  5. The Trump rabble was far more violent and...

    The Trump rabble was far more violent and threatening than the scattered videos showed during the riot. Chris Hayes has just aired some of the new information that has come in. Apparently, there...
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    We still have a two-party system because of how...

    Apart from the material benefits Trump would receive from completing his term, like pension, Secret Service detail, and travel expenses, an impeachment would put the test to the Republicans to see if...
  7. Trump supporters just saw real-time reporting of...

    Trump supporters just saw real-time reporting of their own faction violently breaking into the Capitol building, trashing it, and rampaging. A capital police officer was brutally beaten and later...
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    McConnell is on record as saying that he won't...

    McConnell is on record as saying that he won't allow a vote on impeachment before he becomes minority leader. Trump is likely to be impeached by the House, since Pelosi has already vowed to bring it...
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    Let's hope not, but I wish that you would at...

    Let's hope not, but I wish that you would at least wait until January 20 to make that prediction. Apparently, Nancy Pelosi has talked to generals about not letting Trump launch a nuclear war. I'm...
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    My wife and I couldn't stop listening to the...

    My wife and I couldn't stop listening to the recording, although we hadn't expected to listen to the whole thing. The extent to which his mind had deteriorated and that he was surrounded by...
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    I just want to remind people that dictionaries...

    I just want to remind people that dictionaries can contain bad definitions, and they do not prescribe word usage. You cannot establish how one ought to use the word "atheism" by surveying the...
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    I did read the transcript initially, but the...

    I did read the transcript initially, but the hourlong audio of the call is even more compelling. Since the Trump side is using a speaker phone, and Donald Trump has a propensity for loudness and...
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    I'm guessing that you don't really know how crazy...

    I'm guessing that you don't really know how crazy they are, given that you started out saying that they weren't and then started to walk that thought back. Neither party is particularly rational,...
  14. We are finally at the point where some hospitals...

    We are finally at the point where some hospitals in the US are in a triage situation. More people will die as more ICU wards fill to capacity.
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    Will there be war with Iran?

    We are in the most dangerous period of the Trump presidency, and January 3 is the anniversary of the assassination that Trump ordered against former Quds head Qassem Soleimani. Iran has vowed...
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    The latest wrinkle is that Perdue and Loeffler...

    The latest wrinkle is that Perdue and Loeffler declare their intention to vote for the $2,000 increase in checks in order to blunt Warnock and Ossoff's attack on them for opposing the larger payout. ...
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    My major concern is that quite a few Americans,...

    There's a lot more in the linked article, but you get the idea. This election is probably going to be a mess.[/QUOTE]

    My major concern is that quite a few Americans, especially moderates, believe...
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    Brian, what bothers me about your defense of the...

    As a generality (note I have not been following closely the back-and-forth exchange in detail others here are having with Lion), I do not think that is the case. Using tu toque is a helpful tactic...
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    That isn't what he said. He said that he would...

    That isn't what he said. He said that he would not address the REST of your examples. What he addressed was substantive, minus the remarks that offended you. And you provide a great example of...
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    But if you can forgive the combative tone of...

    Getting back to the Op
    I think in order to qualify as a logical fallacy, the intent of the persuasive statement must entail a clear attempt at a necessary inference.

    The tu quoque is frequently...
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    Derec, the state and the country are already...

    Derec, the state and the country are already extremely polarized, so I don't think you can blame Ossoff for not using his campaign to swim upstream of that trend. He is not going to persuade a lot...
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    Why would it not make sense for Ossoff to...

    Why would it not make sense for Ossoff to campaign in places where he might encourage people who are more likely to vote for him to actually get out and vote for him? It wouldn't make a lot of sense...
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    Republicans are playing to their strengths. They...

    Republicans are playing to their strengths. They can only lose these two senate seats if their base fails to get out and vote. So Trump will visit Georgia to help the Loeffler and Perdue campaigns,...
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    The Washington Post is also reporting on the MAGA...

    The Washington Post is also reporting on the MAGA movement's anger towards Loeffler and Perdue: Trump’s baseless election fraud claims in Georgia turn Senate runoffs into a ‘high-wire act’ for...
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    Some of Trump's ardent supporters are calling...

    Some of Trump's ardent supporters are calling upon fellow MAGA-ites to take action to protest the rampant fraud that led to Biden's win in Georgia: Trump’s conspiracies have MAGA world talking...
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