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    Not always, and especially not when it comes to...

    Not always, and especially not when it comes to brain function.


    Feelings of free will;
    ''When it comes to the human brain, even the simplest of acts can be counter-intuitive and deceptively...
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    That's not how it works. The brain must first...

    It is all performed before you are aware of what you are looking at, feeling, considering or thinking. The selection is made (the only possible action in that moment in time), milliseconds prior to...
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    Compatibilists give their definition of free...

    Compatibilism says the level of agency that is "universe" is not an appropriate place for discussing free will; that "agency" and "free will" exist entirely in different forms of frame. That one is...
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    The whole universe act without coercion,...

    Well, I don't disagree with most of the fundamental ideas that Marvin presents. I've been running fast and hard and loose, hacking my way through philosophy because I don't owe anyone here anything...
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    That is essentially what I said. The point...

    (Actually, the key properties of "a moment in time" is where everything is and what everything is doing, at that moment. In the next moment, the interaction of things in the previous moment will...
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    Some compatibilists clearly want it both ways, as...

    It really doesn't.

    After all the painstaking explanations from Marvin (and many others over the years) you still fundamentally misunderstand compatibilism.[/QUOTE]

    Some compatibilists clearly...
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    It is all performed before you are aware of what...

    It is all performed before you are aware of what you are looking at, feeling, considering or thinking. The selection is made (the only possible action in that moment in time), milliseconds prior to...
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    If non deterministic events happen within a...

    If non deterministic events happen within a determined system, this doesn't rescue free will.

    Neither random or probabilistic events are subject to will.

    Will has no more regulative...
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    No moment in time has special properties over the...

    No moment in time has special properties over the one before or the one after. What you can't do one moment but can the next is not a matter of the ability of your will or its freedom, just...
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    Compatibilism does. Compatibilism deems that...

    Has anyone on this thread suggested otherwise?[/QUOTE]

    Compatibilism does. Compatibilism deems that human decisions and actions that are not 'forced' or 'coerced' are examples of free will.
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    Without physical evidence, metaphysics, politics...

    What is true of the human brain in terms of determinism, its evolved structure, function and output, is true of all things within a determined world. None are special, none are privileged, all...
  12. It's clear that using faith is not a reliable...

    It's clear that using faith is not a reliable means of sorting fact from fiction.
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    To state the obvious, the issue appears to be...

    To state the obvious, the issue appears to be overconsumption of resources/consumerism....who or what is responsible is the question.
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    Time marches on (unless it's blocktime). What...

    Let's deal with that "Not in that instance in time". Consider the thought experiment where we roll back the clock to a previous point in time and then replay the event. We will always end up making...
  15. If we are talking about the bible, Genesis...

    Sorry, I was assuming you were discussing the appearance of humans in the world, not the entire creation. The creation of man is typically called the special creation by Christians. I should have...
  16. But it's not about us. The World is either...

    Ah - not for all of us. Actually, not for most of us. Only the most conservative believers are fixated on those ideas. There is nothing unbiblical about evolution in any subject; I have stated that...
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    A possibility that is not actualized is not a...

    A possibility that is not actualized is not a possibility for you. Not in that instance in time.

    It is a possibility some, it may become possible for you at a later time, seconds, days, weeks,...
  18. The conflict lies between faith and science ...

    That is what I just said. One is tangible, one is intangible. So there is no conflict there as they are concerned with different spheres.

    Ruth[/QUOTE]

    The conflict lies between faith and...
  19. Faith by definition is a belief held without the...

    Faith in God does not work on scientific principles. Love doesn't work on scientific principles either. Does that invalidate love? Both are intangible concerns; science is involved with tangible...
  20. Science doesn't work on the principle of faith.

    Science doesn't work on the principle of faith.
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    Determinism doesn't work on the principle of...

    Determinism doesn't work on the principle of Will.

    Events within a determined system don't work on the principle of Will.

    The brain doesn't work on the principle of Will.

    Behaviour,...
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    Bob.

    Will the real Mcoy please stand up![/QUOTE]

    Bob.
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    I am pointing out the implications of...

    Not if determinism is true. [/QUOTE]

    If, in your view, 'choose' does not mean what people think it means, what is the source of the meaning of 'choose' that you are using?[/QUOTE]

    I am pointing...
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    None of which relates to the nature of desire,...

    Yes, I think that between the two of us we have covered the issue pretty well. Including these points ...

    A desire is something we want to do. A will is a specific intention to do something. When...
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    Not if determinism is true. A realizable choice...

    Not if determinism is true. A realizable choice requires the ability to have done otherwise in the same circumstances. Determinism entails no such realizable option, just a determined progression...
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