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    Why must theists prove god exists?

    I had a philosophy professor who was a teen in Lithuania in WWII.

    He told a story about the Soviet occupation. A Soviet political officer was giving the town an indoctrination lecture. One of the...
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    I do not think the Christian god can be proven or...

    I do not think the Christian god can be proven or disproven. Science can refute claims like young Earth Creation. But then there is a response that when god created earth he put fossils in the...
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    Do you deliver?

    Do you deliver?
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    I generally align with Naturalism and Free...

    I generally align with Naturalism and Free Thought. There can be no supernatural or immaterial. By definition anything that exists is natural, even a god.

    The material-immaterial dichotomy has no...
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    Philosophical terms like materialism always have...

    Philosophical terms like materialism always have multiple variations to the point of being useless unless you explicitly define the parameters of what you mean.

    The bane of philosophers,...
  6. Thread: Sun is god

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    Sun is god

    The sun is god. It is the source of life on Earth.

    The son of the Sun is oxygen. We breath the son of god and get life.

    All bow in the presence of the Sun our god.
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    You obviously mused the obvious metaphor of...

    About on a par with the old problem 'how many angels can fit on the head of a pin?'

    There is no way to experimental demonstrate your question. As such it is philosophy not science.

    You want...
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    Berkeley... hmmm.. didn't he play for the NY...

    You missed Berkeley's argument that distance/length is also known only through the mind, just like color and feeling pain. Going to the moon does not prove anything any more than being on Earth...
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    Halflife whataya say we astral project and meet...

    Halflife whataya say we astral project and meet on the moon and discuss the mind body question. Mind independent of brain and body.

    Your mind body position is more Buddhist and Hindu. Mind is...
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    About on a par with the old problem 'how many...

    even if this was completely true, as i understand these things, it is not a problem. I do not have to reject my basic premise unless, and until, you can show evidence that it is a false premise....
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    Electric cars unintended consequences

    In the news electric cars have a higher rate of collision with pedestrians than gas cars.

    Apparently people rely on n audio key when walking. Added to it is the prevalence of people walking while...
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    W ha we know objectively is experiment with instrumentation and observation. Math models that are predictive.

    Whether an atom exists as we imagine it is not knowable.

    As Carver Meade said, I do...
  13. Thread: Which Bible

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    There is no 'original' bible which is kind of the...

    There is no 'original' bible which is kind of the point.
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    There is no credible scientific theory I know tha...

    There is no credible scientific theory I know tha says the unversed popped into existence without cause. Some may think that.

    I believe causality rules, nothing happens without a cause. Therefore...
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    The modern term may be Christian Materialism....

    I agree with your general point. There is no atheist mythology and can't be because atheism is not a belief system nor a worldview. The belief-system they want to attack is materialism but they keep...
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    All cultures had codes for civil, moral, and...

    We possess two versions of the Decalogue, but both are part of the actual legal codes of the ancient House of Israel such as they were during the nearly-theocratic Second Temple period. It's not...
  17. Thread: Which Bible

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    Thanks. I am not really into Abram scripture...

    Thanks. I am not really into Abram scripture across all three faiths beyond an understanding o theist claims and arguments.

    I am getting into something useful, learning Spanish and Chinese spoken...
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    To get back to the OP, us atheists simple reject...

    To get back to the OP, us atheists simple reject deities.

    Depending on the person one can believe in witchcraft, magic. One can believer in telepathy.

    The issue is not what atheists believe....
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    Poll: To me intuition is distilled knowledge and...

    To me intuition is distilled knowledge and experience. One sees a solution without a clear linear chain of logic.

    A non technical manager approached me on a problem. I gave him the solution and he...
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    Poll: What about the bread? It has to be a whole grain...

    What about the bread? It has to be a whole grain cewy kind.

    PP on toast with coffee is one of the finest eating experiences in the world.
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    When I was growing up going to an Italian...

    When I was growing up going to an Italian pizzeria was an experience.

    The first thing that hits you is the aroma of the spices for the sauce. Bay leaf, rosemary, marjoram, thyme.

    On a cold day...
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    Yes, bribing or promising power to the military was part of it. Was it Claudius who was slated for assassination who was saved by the military as the new leader?Selected by the representatives of the...
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    I wonder who had the job of shoveling shit. ...

    I wonder who had the job of shoveling shit.


    According to the Oxford bible commentary Job was likely part f a greeter set of teaching materials. Some books begin as Father to son or teacher to...
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    In the news electric vehicles and wind turbines...

    In the news electric vehicles and wind turbines are growing faster that expected. However the demand for fossil fuels i also ricing. .
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    Poll: And that is classical philosophy and those...

    Prove to me we are talking about the same thing.
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    And that is classical philosophy and those exercises are anachronistic and obsolete.. Nothing ever gets resolved. Frmderinside...
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