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  1. The written accounts of the Jesus miracle acts are evidence that he did those acts.

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    No, if someone had said something was witnessed by 500 others, and if additional sources also reported the same events, that would make it credible....
  2. The written accounts of the Jesus miracle acts are evidence that he did those acts.

    It is not evidence that anything happened; it is only "evidence" that someone believed something happened.[/quote]

    It's both.[/quote]

    No, it is not.[/quote]

    So then you think there is no...
  3. Grand Juries would be less costly than Congressional investigations.

    Who pays for grand jury investigations now? Who pays for juries to rule on criminal and civil cases?

    If it's not worth it, then we should abolish the jury system. What could be more important to...
  4. "Repeating" -- The only evidence against the MIRACLES OF JESUS is the dogmatic premise that miracles cannot happen.

    Otherwise, all the evidence indicates that these events did happen.




    Nonsense. The Biblical stories are works of fiction, a combination . . .[/quote]

    No, they are works containing both...
  5. Why should we believe you if you're obviously a Whole-Hearted DEVOTEE of either the Blue Gang or the Red Gang?

    Your Gang, the Blue Gang, agrees with the Red Gang on this point. But you disagree on which Gang, the Red or Blue, is the source of truth.

    Your Gang says it's only the Reds who commit any crimes...
  6. Should Obama-Hillary Dems also be investigated? prosecuted?

    e.g., for illegally "spying" on Trump, etc.?


    There are two narratives of the political scandals happening: The Red Narrative and the Blue Narrative. Neither one can be shown to be the objective...
  7. History is based mostly on the "tales" in the written record.

    "Tales" from Herodotus, Plutarch, Josephus, etc. When you're done expunging all those "tales," there's virtually no historical record left.




    Hardly. If you are claiming that tales = evidence...
  8. Is Jesus Christ only one of many reputed miracle-workers of Antiquity?

    Who are the others? Where is the record of them? Where are the reports of their miracle deeds?



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    There were many many such "traditions."[/quote]
  9. "eternal" is not an alien Western / English concept imported into the ancient Greek text.

    This is simply false. The word aionios does include the meaning "eternal" or "everlasting."



    It helps to check the Lexicon.



    No, "eternal" and "everlasting" are not tainted English...
  10. Is Jesus Christ only one of many reputed miracle-workers of Antiquity?

    Who are the others? Where is the record of them? Where are the reports of their miracle deeds?

    And why can't anyone give a reason to disbelieve the Jesus miracles which isn't also a reason to...
  11. How does Protectionist Bonehead Bernie Sanders differ from Protectionist Bonehead Donald Trump?

    Aren't they both China-bashing demagogues who just keep blabbering "jobs! jobs! jobs! jobs! jobs" repeatedly? to similar mobs of mindless rabble? spewing out the same slogans, pandering to whining...
  12. Is Jesus Christ ONLY ONE OF MANY reputed miracle-workers of Antiquity?

    Who are the others? Where is the record of them? Where are the reports of their miracle deeds?



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    There's no case where he's quoted as citing any...
  13. Insiders vs outsiders

    Usually, substitutes are temporary employees, with no benefits such as sick days accruing. If a substitute doesn't show up for a day, regardless of the reason, the sub generally does not get...
  14. Is Jesus Christ ONLY ONE OF MANY reputed miracle-workers of Antiquity?

    Who are the others? Where is the record of them? Where are the reports of their miracle deeds?





    I'm not asserting anything which assumes such a record existed.[/quote]

    You most certainly...
  15. What if the substitute gets sick? Should the...

    What if the substitute gets sick? Should the employer then have to pay 3 teachers for one job? (the original teacher + the 1st substitute + the 2nd substitute)?

    I know, you'll say the substitute...
  16. You're right. But that means there was no problem...

    You're right. But that means there was no problem in the first place. She just pays the cost for the substitute, and any alternative is worse. So, what's the fuss? But if the point is that she should...
  17. Teacher suffering breast cancer has to pay for her substitute.

    Should teachers on "sick-leave" have to pay the cost for their substitute teacher?


    For this news item, click forward to 16:00 minutes into the video:
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  18. There seems to be a sort of contradiction here,...

    This is getting way too long, for which I apologize. I have much else to say but will pause here, having laid the foundation for that which is to follow.[/QUOTE]


    There seems to be a sort of...
  19. a Google definition of "miracle" ...

    a Google definition of "miracle"



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  20. "NATURAL" or "SUPERNATURAL" -- either way, the evidence is that Jesus did those miracle acts, and it's important.

    Maybe you're right that they did not have grounds to believe it was "supernatural," and maybe they did NOT believe it was a "supernatural" event. The Gospel writers never say the events were...
  21. Why is there no evidence for the ancient miracle-workers, other than --

    -- redacted summaries from a modern debunker-crusader guru whose job is to reassure you that they must have existed?

    And because you think it's unfair for Jesus to be the only reported ancient...
  22. Why can't you give the evidence, citing the text and its date, claiming what miracle acts were done?

    Why is there no evidence for any other miracle-workers, such as we have for Jesus in the Gospel accounts? Why are there only empty claims with no specific evidence to offer?

    Was it at Trump...
  23. It's the EVIDENCE (reports that it happened) which make it believable, more than theories about "the laws of nature" etc.

    No. Just the claims that go against the laws of nature.[/quote]

    Again, Rasputin caused a child to recover from a blood disease, without any medical training. Does this go "against the laws of...
  24. There are NO OTHER EXAMPLES of a reputed miracle-worker for whom we have evidence. Only meaningless laundry lists.

    Here is a list of people who claimed to be or were claimed by others to have been a Jewish messiah:



    That just a list of people claiming to be Jewish messiahs.[/quote]

    How about answering my...
  25. Branding it "supernatural" does not eradicate the evidence that it happened.

    If it was not unusual, why did writers make him into a miracle-worker and identify him as the Messiah? Why do we have these accounts at all, if he was an ordinary rabbi or priest? What's another...
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