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    Can a species be intelligent and also the source...

    All those things preserve the tribe and represent the tribe's identity, including sacrificing your children. Supplicating to and accepting the protection of an abusive guardian to preserve tribe and...
  2. Sarcasm? Seems like he's sucking up as much as...

    Sarcasm? Seems like he's sucking up as much as anything else.
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    All those things preserve the tribe and represent...

    All those things preserve the tribe and represent the tribe's identity, including sacrificing your children. Supplicating to and accepting the protection of an abusive guardian to preserve tribe and...
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    Maybe Homo defectus.

    Maybe Homo defectus.
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    Apparently you've never watched The Matrix. If...

    Apparently you've never watched The Matrix. If you had, you would know that there is no chicken.
  6. People of a rational, scientific bent understand...

    Do we want to live in a world where people aren't free to make their own choices / believe what they want to? Should every part of a culture be about efficiency / logic?

    One of the contradictions...
  7. Many humans obviously retain a need to invent and...

    Many humans obviously retain a need to invent and worship some kind of all powerful thing that has all the answers and requires absolute obedience. Doesn't matter if it's a god, a king, a tribe, or...
  8. I think it's very much like a child believing in...

    I think it's very much like a child believing in Santa. Given the child's limited experiences and knowledge Santa belief makes a lot of sense and is likely helpful. But I doubt such a belief in and...
  9. Again, the problem with all that is in the...

    Faith in God does not work on scientific principles. Love doesn't work on scientific principles either. Does that invalidate love? Both are intangible concerns; science is involved with tangible...
  10. LOL. The man died of cerebral edema. I rest...

    LOL. The man died of cerebral edema.

    I rest my case.
  11. Is he a good christian or a bad christian? It's...

    Is he a good christian or a bad christian? It's like the good witch asking Dorothy if she was a witch and what kind. Of course Dorothy was biased against witches until she met Glinda.

    Is the...
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    We don't have convincing pictures of these...

    We don't have convincing pictures of these "phenomenon" for the same reason we don't have convincing pictures and evidence for bigfoot. Isn't there a joke that goes something like: Hey! Bigfoot is...
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    Humans certainly like to pretend. We all do it. ...

    Good point. I suspect we all indulge illusions of different sorts.[/QUOTE]

    Humans certainly like to pretend. We all do it. When we're watching a movie or reading a novel we're suspending...
  14. Right. Just like after the Revolutionary War...

    Right. Just like after the Revolutionary War when everything was so wonderful and hunky dory and fucked up that it was decided that a stronger central government was needed to make things work. ...
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    You forget that New Zealand is a weak nation. ...

    You forget that New Zealand is a weak nation. How many aircraft carriers do they have? How big is their armed forces compared to ours? We can turn them into glass with our nukes if we wanted.
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    Is Superman based on fact? Yes. Therefore...

    Is Superman based on fact? Yes. Therefore Superman has a historical counterpart. IOW there is an historical Superman.
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    To a hardcore believer the group identity is what...

    Is there any concept or advice that the Bible has contributed that have not been or could not possibly be derived from a secular analysis of well being and how to achieve it? Is there any good thing...
  18. There's one overarching reality about this entire...

    There's one overarching reality about this entire creation magic vs evolution discussion that rarely gets mentioned, and that is that "life" is constructed mostly of water. WATER! Fucking water!
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    Business is business. Come down to hard on the...

    He endorsed vaccination right out of the gate actually, his American cardinals just blithely ignored him. Much as with their approach to the Bible, to the conservative Catholic, the Pope's word is...
  20. If god is nature then humans are god despite the...

    If god is nature then humans are god despite the fact that very many humans unintelligently speak and act as if they are not natural. This of course is why they act self destructively.
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    Which nicely explains why believer gods are so...

    Which nicely explains why believer gods are so adept at being irrational, emotional, divisive problem creators. These gods use their power for personal gratification and are unable to ever solve any...
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    Or someone composed a closet drama, or borrowed a...

    Or someone composed a closet drama, or borrowed a script and gave the protagonist the most common male name.
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    If there are "good" christians then there must be...

    If there are "good" christians then there must be christians who are not good, logically speaking. I'd put Greene in that "not good" group.
  24. Agreed on all points - to include WAB and SoHy. ...

    Agreed on all points - to include WAB and SoHy. But lets not forget the woo. I think it's the woo that distinguishes the behavior more than anything. Sure, the group identity, the tribe, is...
  25. Lots of cognitive dissonance. Christians will...

    Lots of cognitive dissonance.

    Christians will tell you that they are supernatural creatures, souls, immortal, just like their gods, while simultaneously asserting their human fallibility. It's...
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