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  1. I'd need to actually see the chart to be sure of...

    Specifically showing employee income by sector? I don't recall seeing that.[/QUOTE]

    No, the chart was correctly labeled as being wages of goods-producing workers.

    Is it any wonder that a...
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    Targeted ads are probably the least of the...

    Understatement of the year.[/QUOTE]

    Targeted ads are probably the least of the problem. Personally, any ads that are targeted at me are ignored...no possible sale to be made. The issue, in case...
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    I know that you were referring to the article. I...

    I know that you were referring to the article. I then pointed out that it was not a case of bait and switch because the topic is about systematic gathering of personal, private and sometimes...
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    What you fail to consider is that this issue is...

    What you fail to consider is that this issue is not something I cooked up. I was not the first to consider the issue or wonder about what kind of information is being gathered, who has access or how...
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    Sounds like a great trip.

    Sounds like a great trip.
  7. Specifically showing employee income by sector? ...

    Do you have evidence to support that claim?[/QUOTE]

    A while back a copy of that graph that was properly labeled was posted and I pointed it out at the time.[/QUOTE]

    Specifically showing...
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    Maybe you'll get a 'Holy Smokes, Batman.' ...

    Maybe you'll get a 'Holy Smokes, Batman.' Wouldn't that be nice?
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    Batman? Bait and switch? Nothing of the sort. ...

    Batman? Bait and switch? Nothing of the sort. The issue is about the scope and scale of information gathering in relation to the right to privacy.

    This is what the article says:

    '' We still...
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    No problem, Lumpen. ;) Or maybe you...

    Thanks again grandpa,[/QUOTE]

    No problem, Lumpen. ;)



    Or maybe you should actually put your video game console down for a few minutes and read more carefully and objectively?

    Which...
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    Big business and marketeers care about us and our...

    Big business and marketeers care about us and our needs, oh, yes they do, sure they do....you can just feel the Love. :)
  12. An attempt at sounding clever falling flat.

    An attempt at sounding clever falling flat.
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    There certainly appears to be far more to it. ...

    There certainly appears to be far more to it. Brushing the issue aside with a "selling toothpaste" remark is beyond absurd. The scope and scale of information gathering goes way beyond marketing...
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    To add a bit of history: On regulatory...

    To add a bit of history:

    On regulatory framework for this technology

    "Privacy is critical, and we have privacy law. We need more. The anti-trust issues are critical. We have anti-trust laws...
  15. It seems that the US is still living with the...

    It seems that the US is still living with the residue of the 'Reds under the bed' era.
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    You tend to ignore any and every bit of...

    It's like you just woke up from a coma that began in 2005 and are just now getting to this debate. As has already been noted several times, such laws already exist and there are steps everyone can...
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    You are being silly.

    We all know that our private information is being acquired by big business interests....the issue being that we have no control of exactly what is being acquired, who can get access to it or how it...
  18. Do you have evidence to support that claim?

    What bad data? Can you be more specific?[/QUOTE]

    The supposed stagnation of wages is actually of manufacturing workers, not all workers. Note that that graph is usually misrepresented as simply...
  19. But public bailouts of failed private...

    That safety net entails socialist Ideals of collective welfare. Which does not mean that western democracies are Socialist in true sense of the term, which I did not say or claim, only that there are...
  20. Socialism entails more than just it's defining...

    Socialism is about public ownership of means of production. Not really about welfare.
    Why is it so important for some to use the word "socialism" when they mean "social democracy"?[/QUOTE]
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  21. That safety net entails socialist Ideals of...

    Most, if not all, western democracies are a blend of capitalism and socialism.[/QUOTE]

    I would not call it a blend exactly. They are merely capitalist countries with a strong safety net.[/QUOTE]
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  22. What bad data? Can you be more specific?

    Negotiating a fair and reasonable income in terms of living cost and overall wealth being generated, a larger slice of the national pie, so that wealth is spread more reasonably than what we see now,...
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    Furthermore;...

    Furthermore;

    ''It’s no secret that your personal data is routinely bought and sold by dozens, possibly hundreds, of companies. What’s less known is who those companies are, and what exactly they...
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    Not at all. This is simply about putting laws in...

    I get the impression that this is yet another example of binary thinking and false assumptions based on ignorance. [/quote]

    Not at all. This is simply about putting laws in place to protect our...
  25. ''Welfareinsm'' being a form of socialism. What...

    Most, if not all, western democracies are a blend of capitalism and socialism.[/QUOTE]

    That's called a "Mixed Economy". They also include Keynesianism, Monetarism, and Welfarism.[/QUOTE]
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