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    So what the Bible says implies that the rapist...

    So what the Bible says implies that the rapist who can afford to spend 5 years of wages on a rape can escape the death penalty and continue to rape his victim now his wife for as long as he feels...
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    Poll: I try to discourage idiots but it doesn't work....

    I try to discourage idiots but it doesn't work. :cheer:
    EB
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    Poll: Your comment doesn't make any sense. I don't know...

    Your comment doesn't make any sense. I don't know what you mean or are trying to mean.

    I wouldn't vote for you, that's for sure.
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    Poll: I hope this will be helpful. EB

    I hope this will be helpful.
    EB
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    Poll: :rub: :rub: EB

    :rub:



    :rub:
    EB
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    Poll: This is a stupid remark. You have no idea what I...

    This is a stupid remark. You have no idea what I do.

    I was also replying to aupmanyav's erroneous comment, and you interjected with an irrelevant remark. And now, LOL, you pontificate from the...
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    Poll: Yes? And how is that relevant? Dictionary...

    Yes? And how is that relevant?

    Dictionary definitions try to be statements of what people mean. They don't provide encyclopedic or scientific context.

    When aupmanyav says of the definition,...
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    Poll: Not true?! This is a dictionary definition of the...

    [/QUOTE]That is not true. The brain is working on those things without our realizing, fuzzy thinking.[/QUOTE]

    Not true?! This is a dictionary definition of the word. This is what proficient...
  9. Poll: I don't know but in any case this is not what the...

    I don't know but in any case this is not what the argument claims.

    I knew it would be a bit too difficult to parse.
    EB
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    Sure, but that is not at all what the argument claims.
    EB
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    Poll: Circular reasoning. EB

    Just pointing out the basics, that our perception of the objective world/reality is being shaped and tested by that objective world. It is an objective world because it does not cater to anyone's...
  12. Poll: Thank you to vote before commenting. EB

    Thank you to vote before commenting.
    EB
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    Poll: I still don't know what you have to object. EB

    So something exists that I label God.

    Good we could agree on that.
    EB[/QUOTE]

    Whatever it is that we call atoms, energy wavelength, etc, has a demonstrable effect in the physical world, the...
  14. Poll: Scientific knowledge about atoms is true

    This argument may be a bit difficult to parse, but it is definitely either valid or not valid. So, if you have an opinion, thanks to share it.



    EB
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    Poll: So something exists that I label God. Good we...

    So something exists that I label God.

    Good we could agree on that.
    EB
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    Poll: Thus, proof that atoms exist only results in the...

    Thus, proof that atoms exist only results in the existence of atoms being widely accepted as true.

    This is of course very different from us knowing that atoms exist, since it may be false even if...
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    Poll: Yes? So you trust your intuition on that? EB

    Yes? So you trust your intuition on that?
    EB
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    Poll: What's your point? EB

    Prove to me we are talking about the same thing.
    EB[/QUOTE]

    Can't. There is no prior behavioral history for those who conclude intuition is thus and so because .... All I point out is that...
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    Poll: We can try to do that. Whether we succeed is...

    But then it is just a case of you assuming the premises as true, which is fine. But it is still not a case of the reasoning proving something true on its own. You need both the valid reasoning and...
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    Poll: Ah, both not valid but not really at all the same...

    Ah, both not valid but not really at all the same thing. And this is a crucial point. Validity is not the same thing as formal validity. An enthymeme may be valid but by definition won't be formally...
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    Poll: Prove to me we are talking about the same thing....

    Prove to me we are talking about the same thing.
    EB
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    Poll: OK, it is your position. Please note that...

    OK, it is your position.

    Please note that logicians admit that arguments missing a premise may be valid. That is, logically valid. Not formally valid, but valid.

    The idea is that we take into...
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    Poll: But then it is just a case of you assuming the...

    Sure, but it is not because we routinely believe other people have a mind that other people a have mind.

    We are logical being and logic in itself doesn't prove anything true. What it does is prove...
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    Poll: What do you expect me to do? I see a tree in my...

    What do you expect me to do? I see a tree in my garden and you're saying science can't measure that tree.

    Well, we disagree. The hell we disagree. Scientists can't measure intuition but I can. I...
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    Poll: Well, tell me how or why an argument and a...

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    Well, tell me how or why an argument and a conditional are different from a logical perspective.



    I didn't say it was an argument. It is a conditional.

    And I asked whether the...
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