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    Yes I have heard of certain superstitions similar...

    Yes I have heard of certain superstitions similar to your discription, but that belief is not biblical, the bible warns of these things. People of those times understood nature e.g. growing crops,...
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    Well it seems we're getting somewhere..... Now...

    Well it seems we're getting somewhere.....

    Now prove it. ;)
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    If I'm getting this right, you disagree with...

    The bible expresses Gods will (the do's and don't's) which doesn't of course tell us ALL about God's mind.

    (apologies Halfie for interjecting)[/QUOTE]

    What someone is said to value tells us...
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    The bible expresses Gods will (the do's and...

    The bible expresses Gods will (the do's and don't's) which doesn't of course tell us ALL about God's mind.

    (apologies Halfie for interjecting)
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    Quantum theory doesn't tell you what...

    Quantum theory doesn't tell you what "supernatural" consists of, and it doesn't tell you what kind of processes would be involved to be defined as such. Sure we have had the term supernatural for...
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    Well the waters didn't recede in just a day which...

    Well the waters didn't recede in just a day which would obviously give the wrong erroneous impression, and seeds for example could lay dormant for quite a few years. Only takes a few days to gemnate...
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    Good note. Happy to exchange Luddites for Amish...

    Good note. Happy to exchange Luddites for Amish to suit.



    I'm sure if a bridge was to be built and written in the scriptures they'd be measured in cubits.

    They are just scientists that are...
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    The Turing test has often been said to be too...

    Today on The Turing Test.[/QUOTE]

    The Turing test has often been said to be too simplistic with devised limitations to produce results.
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    There's a difference between those that have...

    Nope. These are people who will make a distinction between Real Science and the science that leads places they do not want to go.
    They define the split not because they can find fault in the...
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    A fly falls into your soup. Are you still going...

    He wasn’t powerful enough to keep it, eh?

    Interesting to think about - who did he lose it to? (Or give it to)
    Who or what was too powerful for god to resist?[/QUOTE]

    A fly falls into your...
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    Let's not forget sci-fi... Physicists have...

    Let's not forget sci-fi...

    Physicists have come up with a bold new idea to explain the enduring mystery of our expanding Universe – we might actually be living in a 'bubble' between other...
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    Might as well say along-those-lines, that Science...

    Science is not anti-god. Science says nothing about god.

    Creationists however are extremely anti-science and scientists generally are anti-ignorance.
    [/QUOTE]

    Might as well say...
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    There's a lot one can't deduce when there's zilch...

    There's a lot one can't deduce when there's zilch knowledge in the areas unknown. Why do things behave the way they do, fixed and predictable behaviours that you can set your watch to? so to speak, ...
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    Probably because its not Gods world any more.

    Probably because its not Gods world any more.
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    Steve can let me know. Thanks for your time.

    Steve can let me know.

    Thanks for your time.
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    Well from the limited viewpoint of a mere mortal...

    I disagree. As praiseworthy as his admission might be, it is an admisssion that he could have been greater. That is, in his own mind, as well as ours, a greater God can be conceived of.[/QUOTE]
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    I get ya, you mean science can explain some...

    I get ya, you mean science can explain some things so therefore, Gods cannot exist?

    (I jest)
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    That doesn't sound right as I understand it e.g....

    That doesn't sound right as I understand it e.g. The meek shall inherit the earth, by their character, what God sees in their hearts.

    22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not...
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    You have been in quite a few debates, but I am...

    You have been in quite a few debates, but I am surprised you didn't notice the New Heaven(s) and New Earth replaces the old ones is in revelations, which also says there'd be no evil ... suffering,...
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    Good points. That was not in Gods...

    Heaven certainly contained evil and free will. Weren't angels cast out and placed into hell because of their actions?

    Mankind's original Paradise contained free will and evil. Mankind was then...
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    I think you have to use more than "basic" logic....

    What is free will?[/QUOTE]

    Oh come on!
    It's right there in the term itself.
    Free
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    Which word don't you understand?[/QUOTE]

    I think you have to use more than "basic" logic. Dissecting...
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    The Heaven on both counts in your post doesn't...

    The Heaven on both counts in your post doesn't seem to have God in either of them. It seems your idea of Heaven is modelled on, and run by humans in just the same way it is, in this world. Your own...
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    If you are willing to give us the parameters, so...

    What is free will?[/QUOTE]

    If you are willing to give us the parameters, so we can all agree on, then maybe the topic can pick up a little. Must be balanced! (I noted some varied propositions by...
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    Its not just the different word understanding but...

    We apparently have a different understanding of the word, repent. You apparently see repentance as an, "Aw, shucks. My fault. Sorry about that" then walking away and forgetting about it. My...
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    I just explained in my previous post. Different...

    I just explained in my previous post. Different stages, after regret, introducing laws and new commandments along the time-line right up to the much later NT (final prophecy enters here).

    I like...
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