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  1. Poll: I don't think so. Everyone who does productive...

    You're acting like a religious fanatic here.[/QUOTE]

    I don't think so. Everyone who does productive work is contributing to the running of a society, supplying the needs and wants of the...
  2. Hysteria? Not at all, now you are being...

    I have. I think the hysteria in DBT’s gun nut sources is unwarranted. To date, there is no evidence of real harm from these laws.

    The citizens of the states with red flag laws through their duly ...
  3. These things are preventable. Easily...

    You are mistaken. Due process foes little to prevent mistaken or arrests made on flimsy evidence. It does offer more protection after the arrest. In both of your examples (which were not such...
  4. Which still caused unnecessary problems for the...

    What you didn’t note is that, in Stephen Nichols’ case he was never actually terminated—merely suspended while being investigated—and it was almost immediately determined that the waitress who heard...
  5. Thread: Travel pictures.

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    Tropical sunsets; 26142

    Tropical sunsets;


    26142
  6. Here's a couple of examples of red flag laws...

    Here's a couple of examples of red flag laws gone wrong in the very way that some are concerned about;

    ''While recently having breakfast with a friend,Stephen Nichols mentioned his concerns about...
  7. Who are these 'dangerous gun owners?' Do you...

    Who are these 'dangerous gun owners?' Do you know? Do you have information? Stats?
  8. Once again, this issue is about finding a balance...

    Once again, this issue is about finding a balance between protecting innocent gun owners from false, mistaken or malicious claims and the community from gun owners who may pose a risk to the...
  9. Due process is supposed to protect innocent gun...

    Nope, I’ve said you have not made a convincing argument.

    I understand. You prefer that dangerous gun owners have a better chance to kill others, rather than take precautions.[/QUOTE]

    Due...
  10. I didn't say it was irrelevant. I said it's but...

    I didn't say it was irrelevant. I said it's but one factor in the issue. You interpret what I say to suit your own position while ignoring anything that goes against it.

    Due process is the...
  11. They are like religious fundamentalists. Whenever...

    What is it with anti-gun radicals constantly sexualizing firearms? They are compared to genitalia, which makes their desire to remove them interesting from a Freudian perspective. They are compared...
  12. Rude and ignorant. An internet coward who throws...

    Sure seems like it. You seem awfully concerned that someone might have their guns taken away. But you don't seem to be expressing a lot of concern for what might happen if a lot of those people are...
  13. Poll: I'm pointing out that the running of a society...

    That's still not addressing my point.[/QUOTE]

    I'm pointing out that the running of a society isn't just about catering for the rich. Everyone needs a decent standard of life, and if someone is...
  14. Yes. And of course allowing the accused to...

    Possibly, as long as the gun owner is not financially disadvantaged in cases of false or mistaken accusations, the state or the accuser bearing the cost of lawyers, loss of income, etc.[/QUOTE]
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  15. Possibly, as long as the gun owner is not...

    Possibly, as long as the gun owner is not financially disadvantaged in cases of false or mistaken accusations, the state or the accuser bearing the cost of lawyers, loss of income, etc.
  16. No, I don't mean that. Nobody means that.

    You mean, like school kids getting gunned down in classrooms? Or not those innocents?[/QUOTE]

    No, I don't mean that. Nobody means that.
  17. The 4th amendment quote is just one part of the...

    The 4th amendment quote is just one part of the issue and it's brevity is open to interpretation that may ignore other factors and rulings. Which is why I also referred to other amendments and other...
  18. Those trying to find a life texting those who...

    Those trying to find a life texting those who have no life but staring into a screen.
  19. Public safety and justice should be pursued, but...

    Public safety and justice should be pursued, but not at the expense of punishing the innocent.
  20. Poll: The odd thing is that there seems to be no...

    The odd thing is that there seems to be no shortage of money at the top of the heap, mansions, yachts, planes, lavish lifestyles....yet heaven forbid that a cleaner gets an extra dollar an hour...
  21. What you fail to consider is that the issue...

    What you fail to consider is that the issue doesn't just rest on one line of the amendments, hence your interpretation is incomplete and flawed:


    ''The greatest potential for abuse arises when...
  22. Strange, maybe a matter of a spin and...

    Strange, maybe a matter of a spin and wobble/inclination cycle?
  23. The problem is with interpretation. The issue as ...

    The problem is with interpretation. The issue as described:

    ''The standard is not whether there is probable cause to believe that the gun owner has committed a crime, as the Constitution would...
  24. It is not what I claim but what the amendment...

    It is not what I claim but what the amendment says and what people are concerned about when search and seizures are carried out on what may be an unsubstantiated claim, something someone heard said...
  25. Thread: Pie Pie Pie

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    These prices give the impression of a lot of...

    These prices give the impression of a lot of people making a lot of money.
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