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  1. Like I've said, I think "I think ALL evidence of...

    Like I've said, I think "I think ALL evidence of God and the paranormal can be explained by skeptics as coincidence, delusion, or hallucinations". I think that theory also covers non-naturalistic...
  2. That seems to involve skeptics and like I've...

    That seems to involve skeptics and like I've said, "I think ALL evidence of God and the paranormal can be explained by skeptics as coincidence, delusion, or hallucinations". Then there is the Bible...
  3. Theists would claim that there could be evidence...

    Theists would claim that there could be evidence such as irreducible complexity - I think that there were no jumps in evolution - that it seems perfectly naturalistic....

    Yes that's exactly how it...
  4. I disagreed with: "Biological evolution is...

    I disagreed with:

    "Biological evolution is neither theistic or atheistic, just as gravity and star formation and weather are neither theistic or atheistic"

    I mean I've heard the term "theistic...
  5. Like I said in post #109...

    Like I said in post #109 I think evolution just appears to take a long time and it appears to be naturalistic. If this is a simulation there are two main possibilities for the evolution we can...
  6. But many theists believe in biological evolution...

    In the first, you add a word unnecessarily.[/QUOTE]
    But many theists believe in biological evolution that is not completely naturalistic....

    You said ".....science is neutral on divine action. It...
  7. "....What do you call it if it is evolution that...

    "....What do you call it if it is evolution that isn't theistic?" "Science"

    "....Once more, science is neutral on divine action"

    I asked you what to call evolution that isn't theistic and you...
  8. But what about naturalistic biological evolution...

    But what about naturalistic biological evolution and guided biological evolution?
  9. I prefer "guided evolution" because it could be...

    I prefer "guided evolution" because it could be possible it is part of a simulation and an AI is involved that some people wouldn't consider to be a god. Or there could be retrocausality (probably...
  10. You seem to be contradicting yourself. I agree...

    Science.[/QUOTE]

    You seem to be contradicting yourself. I agree with Jimmy Higgins in post #122 that it could be called "naturalistic evolution".
  11. The technical term seems to be "Apophenia" ...

    The technical term seems to be "Apophenia"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
  12. So they thought that things that looked like...

    So they thought that things that looked like canals were canals.... a more severe example of finding non-existent patterns is from A Beautiful Mind:
    ...
  13. The reason I think I'm probably in a simulation...

    The reason I think I'm probably in a simulation has nothing to do with evolution - it is partly due to Elon Musk's reasoning and many personal experiences like receiving a sealed upside down Bible...
  14. My belief is that an intelligent force started...

    Back in the day YECs were all about "special creation." Yours is just "special evolution," evolution by divine fiat. It's dopey stuff, there isn't any such thing.[/QUOTE]
    My belief is that an...
  15. So "theistic evolution" is roughly "evolutionary...

    So "theistic evolution" is roughly "evolutionary theory that depends on divine action, in some or all parts".... what about evolutionary theory that explicitly involves no divine action?

    I think...
  16. There is theistic evolution...

    There is theistic evolution
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_evolution
    What do you call it if it is evolution that isn't theistic? (non-theistic evolution?)

    "Theists that accept evolution...
  17. Well I was a high school student - I didn't know...

    I get that.
    And i'm saying you're wrong to do that (save only that you refer to every single science as atheistic). Not only wrong, but betraying significant ignorance.
    There's the scientific...
  18. I'm saying there is atheistic evolution and...

    I'm saying there is atheistic evolution and theistic evolution - not that evolution is always atheistic - but I rejected Christian theistic evolution and went straight to atheistic evolution.
  19. That's basically what I believe now.... see post...

    OR, he wore gloves. You'd think an all powerful being of infinite knowledge, including the future techniques used to examine the past might be able to not leave fingerprints if he so desired,...
  20. In post #63...

    In post #63 Jimmy Higgins said "All books are atheists. None of them believe in god(s)." So that joke follows that the theory of evolution could be atheist.

    Then wasn't I being reasonable to...
  21. This might not be justified but I consider...

    This might not be justified but I consider evolution without an intervening intelligent force to be "atheistic evolution" even if a non-intervening intelligent force exists.

    In the textbooks it...
  22. If there's no evidence that God ever intervened...

    If there's no evidence that God ever intervened in evolution at all then it suggests there isn't a God that intervenes in our world... I mean if there's no evidence that God intervened during the...
  23. So perhaps I was right when I said "Perhaps...

    So perhaps I was right when I said "Perhaps rejecting YEC led me closer to the truth".

    In post #45 I said "Basically I believe I'm probably in a simulation and there is an intelligent force that...
  24. At that time, for me, the options were YEC and...

    Well, yeah. There's...evolution.

    Dude, it's not atheistic evolution. Science is neutral on the question of whether or not gods exist.[/QUOTE]
    At that time, for me, the options were YEC and...
  25. I was talking about the truth regarding YEC vs...

    When I was looking into anti-YEC resources I did say to whatever was out there "I don't care how depressing it is, I want to know the truth" and then for the only time in my life I felt a strong...
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