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    I think they are mistaken. There is awareness and...

    I think you overstate your case in the second half of that sentence. Some meditators and psychedelics users report experiences of having no sense of self. Awareness is there but the feeling of being...
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    But even if the self only exists as a concept or...

    Which is that it's a unitary self -- an entity which receives sensory perceptions and controls thought and makes choices. The illusion is there's a charioteer steering the body (the horses) around....
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    I think you pretty much have it right. A brain...

    I think you pretty much have it right. A brain builds imperfect models of its environment based on a necessarily limited range of sense perceptions to which it applies inductive and deductive...
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    This is why...

    There are plenty of pictures of Saturn's rings from the ground and from spacecraft: the Hubble Space Telescope, Pioneer 11, Voyagers 1 and 2, and Cassini.

    Why might they be inadequate?[/QUOTE]
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    It's not only a matter of holding the air inside...

    It's not only a matter of holding the air inside the ring. It needs to approximate the air pressure on Earth. Googling the weight of air I found it's .0807 pounds/cu ft. So 15 pounds/sq in. divided...
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    I wish that they'd taken some more detailed...

    I wish that they'd taken some more detailed pictures of the material that makes up the rings of Saturn. We still just get to look at simulations. I think they can be very misleading, just like...
  7. As I was about to drift off to sleep last night,...

    So what is the difference between an emotional high and feeling spiritual? Are they the same thing? I get what you're saying about having a nice feeling of emotional satisfaction when you help...
  8. And then there's smoking in China...

    And then there's smoking in China:
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    First you need to know that I too am atheist. The...

    That is very funny, to say the least. I lack faith in your Jesus and I am never any worse for it. What is the big reason that I should believe in Jesus and why should I want it. I am happily a...
  10. Then it might have conflicted with Young Sheldon....

    Really? That was the only time I ever saw it listed. It was weird enough that I would have watched it again.[/QUOTE]

    It was on NBC for four years, usually Thursday evenings at 8:30pm Eastern...
  11. Really? That was the only time I ever saw it...

    Really? That was the only time I ever saw it listed. It was weird enough that I would have watched it again.
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    It can safely be assumed that Jesus was making...

    Did Jesus believe there are people who don't have moral failings? Who is it that "happens to not have any" in the worldview jesus portrays? All my life I thought the verse in question implied "none...
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    I watched some of the caucus coverage during the...

    I watched some of the caucus coverage during the 2016 election and it was a joke. An extremely small part of the electorate brave inclement weather to spend hours just sitting around in groups of...
  14. Only saw one recent episode because they had it...

    If this involves a simulation then the people in the "good place" could have their brains simulated in a physical way - but tweaked so that they don't feel boredom, etc.[/quote]

    Only saw one...
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    I know moral relativism is often seen as moral...

    I don't hope that's what it means, but I don't think Jesus is an authority figure which we need to blindly adhere to, we can take his words and add to them - deriving a moral philosophy from Jesus.
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    You might hope that this is what it means but all...

    I think the idea is that we're often quick to condemn others without looking at ourselves first - morally a principle could look like 'if we seek retribution for wrongs done, we should look at the...
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    I recognize the quote but I don't understand how...

    That's a hell of a line.

    I recall Leonard Cohen talking about Jesus at some point - can't remember where, maybe a youtube interview - but he spoke about him with quite a bit of respect. Take away...
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    He does seem to have an exceptionally strong...

    He does seem to have an exceptionally strong interest in religions lately. That's all good.
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    I misunderstood the point of the thread. I...

    I misunderstood the point of the thread. I thought you were exploring the potential for Jesus teachings as the basis for a moral philosophy. You cited the Sermon on the Mount so it seemed you were...
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    I can only speak from personal experience, but for me the current street supply chain is a known factor, and originates from growers in the legal market in another State. I trust it as well as I...
  21. You may be right. I looked for the report and it...

    "Buy on the street" does not necessarily mean heading down to a street corner in the seediest part of town to find a random dealer. For many it is more likely to be the case that you are going to a...
  22. Yeah if I was smoking marijuana I'd be really...

    Also, a problem cropping up here, the legal stuff is so expensive, the users turn to illegal supplies. But those suppliers are lacing their product with more addictive contaminants. You develop a...
  23. They call marijuana a "gateway drug". The actual...

    They call marijuana a "gateway drug". The actual reason being the need of the consumer to become acquainted with the criminal world in order to obtain it. I think the police still go after that...
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    OK. Post #29...

    And are moral teachings are found in the Sermon on the Mount?[/QUOTE]

    See the post on sayings of Jesus.[/QUOTE]

    OK. Post #29:


    These are simply platitudes, not a code for how to live a good...
  25. What I mean is that if this better place is...

    First you have to assume there is something more to the feelings of pleasure and boredom than pure biology.[/QUOTE]

    What I mean is that if this better place is non-corporeal then pleasure and...
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