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    Sorry, I hadn't read this post when I replied to...

    I developed symptoms on Thursday. I had a sore throat. Next day lump in my throat. Coughing. Saturday coughing, runny nose, and tonight chills. I really felt like shit. I was fatigued. Chills went...
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    What is your evidence that it is not good? ...

    AZ is not good. That is probably why Biden held off on it. Pfizer is the best.[/QUOTE]

    What is your evidence that it is not good?

    Results clearly indicate it is. Moderna and Pfizer are...
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    Vaccination has picked up the pace to some extent...

    Vaccination has picked up the pace to some extent over here, and now I got a turn to get my first jab next Wednesday.

    Even a month ago, it looked like it was going to take a lot longer, but some...
  4. Who is telling you in other contexts that doesn't...

    Who is telling you in other contexts that doesn't work because it's 'force'? I do not know what the fundamental principle is. I have a human monkey brain that can tell what a person should do in a...
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    Congrats, and over here, AZ is by far the vaccine...

    Congrats, and over here, AZ is by far the vaccine with fewer cases of side effects; and thrombosis is extremely rare anyway. :)
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    Sorry to hear you feel awful. :( :huggs: What...

    Sorry to hear you feel awful. :( :huggs: What vaccine was that?

    But yay! :) You got a shot of (my guess) one of the best two vaccines there are.
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    What do you mean he did not get in the way?...

    What do you mean he did not get in the way? Wasn't Operation Warp Speed a policy of his administration?

    It's not about Trump's taking credit. Trump is a bad person, and he also screwed up the...
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    Funny. :D Seriously, both Trump and the...

    Funny. :D

    Seriously, both Trump and the Chinese regime are problems, but didn't Trump get some of the vaccines developed? Well, Trump and a lot of other people, but that is always the case. As...
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    I know that the FDA can't make them apply. That...

    The FDA can't make them apply and can't approve it without an application.

    I think the plan is to give/sell the stockpile to other countries that have approved it.[/QUOTE]

    I know that the FDA...
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    But if the application has not been made, then...

    The FDA can't act unilaterally here--they can't approve an application that hasn't been made.[/QUOTE]

    But if the application has not been made, then the situation is even worse: the FDA will never...
  11. Good points. And there is a further difference to...

    For some reason, you ignore the difference between toleration (i.e. doing nothing) and defense (defending the right to).[/QUOTE]

    For some reason you ignore the difference between toleration (i.e....
  12. Just to clarify, when I said " 1. You believe...

    Just to clarify, when I said " 1. You believe that forcing an anti-black racist to serve black customers is to force him to express a message he disagrees with (unless you are lying; but I do not...
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    I was reading about the US AZ stockpile...

    I was reading about the US AZ stockpile, and I wonder, why sit on it waiting for the FDA?

    I mean, I cannot figure out a good reason, because:

    1. If the vaccines were not part of the...
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    Good for you :smile: , and sorry to hear you got...

    Good for you :smile: , and sorry to hear you got so sick, but it's good to hear that you're alright now.
  15. The example shows that your proposed principle is...

    The example shows that your proposed principle is false.




    I never claimed you intended to imply that it is constitutionally allowed to force racists to say things they do not believe. I...
  16. No, it's because: 1. I'm not being forced to...

    People are forced to do things all the time. You seem to think this time force is bad while failing to account for all the other measures of force in the reality of the real world. You are forced to...
  17. Yes, we've been through that already. The reason...

    Yes, we've been through that already. The reason I insist on this is that laughing dog insist in accusing me of improperly using the words.


    No, I don't fail to account for all of them. I...
  18. No, it is not going to be enough, at least not...

    No, it is not going to be enough, at least not for the vast majority of people who believe that only whites can be racist, or that blacks cannot be racist. And probably it will not be enough for even...
  19. It is an instance of forcing the baker, in the...

    It is an instance of forcing the baker, in the sense of the word 'force' in English.


    No, my example shows that your it is not the case that the meaning has to be known to people other than those...
  20. I support not forcing people - even bigots - to...

    I support not forcing people - even bigots - to endorse views they disagree with. You support forcing some people you disagree with to endorse views they disagree with, even though you do not realize...
  21. No; even if Philips were deliberately trying to...

    No; even if Philips were deliberately trying to do what you say here (not a chance, but let us say), then I would support his case, even though he would be mistaken as to why he is right.


    No,...
  22. You keep repeating that. Again, he will make an...

    You keep repeating that. Again, he will make an assessment on the basis of the information available to him, which includes Scardina's claims about the meaning, and so he reasonably assigns a high...
  23. Well, no. Scardina can know regardless (others...

    So you admit no one would know what the message is unless told.[/QUOTE]

    Well, no. Scardina can know regardless (others might or might not depending on context). But see my Bob and Alice analogy.
  24. No, he made the meaning clear. Philips has no...

    No, he made the meaning clear. Philips has no good reason to suspect it does not have that meaning - and it does now for Philips at least, and with good reason.
    And of course, Philips can see the...
  25. But why do you think so? The refusal seem to be...

    But why do you think so?
    The refusal seem to be based on content of the message, not identity of the customers. If a straight friend of the couple had asked him to bake the same-sex wedding cake,...
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