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    Not at all. The written language is meant to...

    I mean that "just read it in plain English and assume that its meaning is obvious" is stupid advice. [/quote]

    Not at all. The written language is meant to convey information, and if it is meant...
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    Nor did I say, or imply, that a well considered...

    Yes, I noticed. So why would we - ever - not have a well-considered approach to reading ancient texts?[/QUOTE]

    Nor did I say, or imply, that a well considered approach is not necessary. What is...
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    My method? I made no mention of a method. A...

    So how do you decide which books we should think critically about, and which we should take at whatever "face value" happens to mean to us, even in translation? Is it just genre?

    I'm not actually...
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    Depends on the nature of the book, satire,...

    Do you believe that this is true of all books, that they are all easily understandable and "in plain English" without any need for interpretation on the part of the reader, regardless of their...
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    It is not atheists who define God as the creator...

    It is not atheists who define God as the creator of both good and evil, but the bible itself. The bible tells us this. Some people do not like this, apparently it's not convenient, so they play...
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    The verses say what they say according to the...

    Spoken like a true fundy.
    I'm proud of you.
    Here. Have a +rep[/QUOTE]

    The verses say what they say according to the English language. Anyone with a basic understanding of the language can read...
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    There is no need for me to interpret, the verses...

    Only in the ontological sense that there is an opposite to good. God creates or does a thing. It is good. Ontologically, we can therefore name other things not good.
    Abstract things can be NOT good....
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    An omniscient/omnipotent creator can only be...

    An omniscient/omnipotent creator can only be responsible for the state of the created. There are verses that say that God is not only responsible for evil but actively creates it.
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    Except that this verse is not the only one that...

    I went with this line in my former days challenging bible believers but then I would then realise saying to myself, "hang on a minute!"' ... "it's only said in the verse", as Politesse highlights...
  10. Sure it is. You know it's true.

    That's not an answer.[/QUOTE]

    Sure it is. You know it's true.
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    That's right, creating good does not negate the...

    The book of Isaiah overtly claims that God creates both good and evil.

    Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
    7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do...
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    The bible clearly states that God creates evil.

    The bible clearly states that God creates evil.
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    The OT God and the NT God is supposed to be one...

    The OT God and the NT God is supposed to be one and the same God, so if the OT tells us that God creates evil, it obviously includes both....except that orthodox Judaism doesn't accept Christian...
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    No doubt...including political parties and...

    Isn't that how a cult operates?[/QUOTE]

    No doubt...including political parties and economists apparently.
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    Yes, to equivocate the two is absurd.

    That would be equivalent with saying adults have faith that there is no Santa. Does it take faith to know Santa is not real? Is a child going from one faith position to another when the child stops...
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    If faith is a conviction of truth in spite of a...

    If faith is a conviction of truth in spite of a lack of evidence to support a justified conviction, to lack conviction when there no evidence to support a conviction takes no faith.
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    Holding a belief that there are no gods just...

    As in a belief, of varying strengths among the holders, albeit usually quite strong, that there is no god. In other words, that there probably isn't.

    As a worldview, that the world (probably)...
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    As a lack of conviction in the existence of a God...

    I'm fine with calling atheism a belief, and a worldview.[/QUOTE]

    As a lack of conviction in the existence of a God or gods?
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    Atheism is the absence of faith, a lack of...

    Atheism is the absence of faith, a lack of conviction. A lack of conviction is based on insufficient evidence.
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    The Flat Earth Society members probably believe...

    The Flat Earth Society members probably believe that the rest of society is suffering from the Dunning-Kruger Effect, that they themselves are immune....being select members of 'in the know' group,...
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    Yes, indeed, a flat earth conference attended to...

    Yes, indeed, a flat earth conference attended to by members from around the globe.

    Who, while flying to the conference could have looked out the window of their aircraft and seen the...
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    What they believe is false, orbital mechanics,...

    Some flat earthers I've come across don't believe in gravity. They believe the reason why objects fall is that the earth is constantly accelerating upwards.[/QUOTE]

    What they believe is false,...
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    If our universe is a simulation, it has a set of...

    When I was hospital early in 2019 I briefly thought it might be possible within a simulation and it is a test of God's word (the Truth) vs worldly "wisdom". It would also require that NASA is part of...
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    Sounds like an experience. Something more...

    Sounds like an experience. Something more interesting than the typical sanitized guided tour thing.....
  25. Who determines value? It's in the interest of...

    Want more income? Provide more value to your employer![/QUOTE]

    Who determines value? It's in the interest of the employer to downplay value, that way they pay less and increase profits.

    When...
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