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  1. Thread: Which Bible

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    I didn't say Dawkins gets 100% of sales revenue...

    I think you have a delusional idea of the money authors make.

    To get $10 per book sold, would imply a cover price of about $100/copy. [/QUOTE]

    I didn't say Dawkins gets 100% of sales revenue...
  2. Not so much no, in all honesty, but with the...

    Not so much no, in all honesty, but with the bible yes.

    Would looki forward to see from you, where I am at fault (genuinely for discussion).
  3. So this was proven to be an exaggerating tale....

    So this was proven to be an exaggerating tale. What was the source of the tale? Is there an exaggerated equivalent discovery of the Hebrews story?



    Thats a good point, even though you describe...
  4. Well historians who take to the ancient writings...

    When Louis Lamour wrotes a Western, he put in a lot of details on the setting. If he wrote that the characters rode three miles out of a named town and stopped at rock shaped like rabbit, you could...
  5. It wouldn't be so easy to believe the unusual of...

    I recall that many decades ago many news outlets (press and television) reported that the U.S. destroyer, the USS Maddox, was attacked and fired on by North Vietnamese patrol boats in international...
  6. I could but not so easily of course. If you found...

    I am sure you could. But a rational and reasonable person couldn't.[/QUOTE]

    I could but not so easily of course. If you found 4 news paper front pages (without the modern photo pics), from...
  7. Maybe you'd have a little more interest if you...

    Maybe you'd have a little more interest if you had three other writers that wrote the same thing they've seen or heard as you did. ;)

    I could believe you.
  8. Jesus must have healed a few ailments at that...

    Jesus must have healed a few ailments at that wedding.



    (Apologies off topic)
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    True, and you can't be forced to really love a...

    If it was an entity like Q that created you, then he would still be your god (in your analogy), whether you like it or not. The creator IOWs makes the rules![/QUOTE]

    But i still choose whether or...
  10. Possibly Jesus was merely following a happy good...

    Possibly Jesus was merely following a happy good will tradition:


    Psalms 104:15.


    “And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which...
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    If it was an entity like Q that created you, then...

    If it was an entity like Q that created you, then he would still be your god (in your analogy), whether you like it or not. The creator IOWs makes the rules!
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    Not quite the God of the bible as I see it...

    Not quite the God of the bible as I see it obviously to your view. The future IS already set out in Revelation therefore God is omniscient. Likewise, with the regrets (after death came into the...
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    Hmm natural selection not as effective as it...

    Hmm natural selection not as effective as it seems.

    (I'd love to spend a lot more time to discuss with posters. I will have take a Christmas break soon! )
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    I'll accept that a god would be limted by the...

    Why is it not unlimited and all-powerful? [/QUOTE] because limiting it, pretty much by definition means it is not unlimited.
    Words. Not just for English Teachers.[/QUOTE]

    I'll accept that a god...
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    Sure we understand limited power and does your...

    Sure we understand limited power and does your point mean God is restrained to the natural world to clarify? Other than that, these few words doesn't describe or explain WHY certain actions (By God)...
  16. Thread: Which Bible

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    I doubt its damning to the biblical accounts....

    I doubt its damning to the biblical accounts. Each day that excavations and biblical studies are done, the more it seem mo to favour the biblical accounts.

    Example: the exodus is more likely from...
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    Why is it not unlimited and all-powerful?...

    Not sure about that myself ... I see it as:

    IF God is the one and only CREATOR and HE is ultimately more powerful than all HIS creations then GOD, IS the Gold-Bar Standard for Omnipotent. ...
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    Not sure about that myself ... I see it as: IF...

    Not sure about that myself ... I see it as:

    IF God is the one and only CREATOR and HE is ultimately more powerful than all HIS creations then GOD...IS the Gold-Bar-Standard for Omnipotent. If God...
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    There's no real difficulty...really, I...

    These kinds of posts display the insurmountable difficulty of God's omni traits that Angra Mainyu pointed out.

    Omniscience means "knows everything". If you have to invent caveats to answer the...
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    Why can't GOD do both? Create NEW things without...

    by 'god' you generally mean an omniscient deity with the power of prophecy, right?

    Exactly what would you mean by 'something he (all knowing, all foreseeing) hasn't thought of'?[/QUOTE]

    Why...
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    I would wonder with the above set conditions ... ...

    Well, I argue that the probability that God exists conditioned to the hypothesis that there is an omnipotent, omniscient creator is close to zero. Combining that with the difficulty in making...
  22. I've not seen evdience that stage magicians could...

    I've not seen evdience that stage magicians could actually do this either, I concur.



    No disagreement there.



    All these things described is centred around one individual and unusual for...
  23. Its true that its rare... I have faith you can...

    Its true that its rare...

    I have faith you can workout what kind of response Christians would give, best ask someone of the Islamic faith.
  24. There are advantages which is useful to your...

    There are advantages which is useful to your quote below...





    Consistency, i.e. that the stories are still very much the same! Putting all the manuscripts side by side including the KJV ,...
  25. Let me rephrase it as: not the usual, normal...

    Let me rephrase it as: not the usual, normal everyday thing. And the frequency of claims (which matters here) regarding that bit written in the bible - people coming back to life and "flying off...
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