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  1. Exactly. It's not entirely unlike those office...

    Exactly. It's not entirely unlike those office jobs where women are obliged to wear skirts and high heels.

    Interestingly, some boxers, such as David Haye, insist on picking the ring girls for...
  2. 23716 This would be funny if it didn't also...

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    This would be funny if it didn't also make any reasonable, modern-thinking person wince at least slightly. Ironically, the organisers saw fit to include the women in bikinis even though it...
  3. Well there is apparently quite a lot of...

    Well there is apparently quite a lot of wolf-whistling from spectators for starters, so I read.
  4. What's most surprising is not that some here...

    I suspect you find most feminists insufferable regardless of whether they're prudes, so I'm guessing it has something to do with confirmation bias.[/QUOTE]

    What's most surprising is not that some...
  5. Indeed. Because there will be a broad-based...

    Indeed. Because there will be a broad-based feeling that such things are out of date and no longer appropriate. This is already happening. The King Canutes here are triggered by it, and feel they...
  6. I think you did one of your segues there, away...

    What it underscores is that women are sex objects. Newsflash. That's a fact. Men are too. That doesn't mean that is ALL they are. It doesn't mean as Toni said that they are less than fully thinking...
  7. Ok, King Canute. Best of luck stopping the rising...

    Ok, King Canute. Best of luck stopping the rising tide by whining about it ad nauseam on the internet. Rather you than me. :)
  8. You must live inside a little under-informed...

    You must live inside a little under-informed man-bubble or something. Do you honestly think that you saying you are unaware of something which exists makes it not exist?



    Blah blah blah. Oh you...
  9. Oh I get that you think it's faulty. I get that...

    Oh I get that you think it's faulty. I get that alright. But then I think that your simplistic and myopic stance is pretty crap, all things considered, seeing as how (a) it can't get beyond your own...
  10. Just on that. It has been said, and there is some...

    Just on that. It has been said, and there is some evidence to support it, that the sexual liberation of the 60's and after was not just about women's independence, but about women becoming more...
  11. Hey, either you are taking aim at feminists, or...

    Hey, either you are taking aim at feminists, or you're not. Every other post it's feminists this and feminists that. And yet you say it's not only feminists (or prudes) you're complaining about. I'm...
  12. I've said it too. Imo it's not even...

    I've said it too. Imo it's not even controversial. The perception of women in society is partly formed by the roles they tend to do and be seen to do. This has been studied. Being a scantily clad...
  13. French company liable after employee dies during extra-marital sex with stranger on business trip

    I'm not sure what to make of this interesting news item, but on the face of it, it doesn't seem fair to hold the employer responsible.

    "A French company has been found liable for the death of an...
  14. Sure, but the prevalence of such female roles...

    Sure, but the prevalence of such female roles reinforces sexist and objectifying stereotypes. It affects how women in general are viewed and valued, and how they respond to this when viewing and...
  15. Women are judged more on their looks. But that's...

    Women are judged more on their looks. But that's ok, because that's what men tend to want to judge them on. It's entirely unproblematical and has no adverse consequences for women and girls.
  16. Mods, Jolly would like the thread moved to the...

    Mods, Jolly would like the thread moved to the humour forum, where he thinks it belongs. And I actually agree with him. :)
  17. FIFY 1. FIFY 2. Now, don't you have...

    FIFY 1.



    FIFY 2.

    Now, don't you have better things to be doing than complaining about there not being enough women's tits and camel toes on public display at sporting events? If not, I...
  18. Go you. Others might take a different approach....

    Go you. Others might take a different approach. They might advocate for being able to go to certain events and not have to see certain things.

    Others, like me, men who are not feminists nor...
  19. It's not a bizarre point even in the slightest,...

    It's not a bizarre point even in the slightest, but if you don't even see that that is one obvious and problematical aspect of the issue then I don't see much point in even discussing it with you. I...
  20. The problem with ring girls and grid girls and...

    The problem with ring girls and grid girls and cheerleaders, imo, is that they belong back in an era when women's worth in ways other than their beauty and sexuality were generally held to be lesser...
  21. Yeah. This is so cool: ...

    Here in the States, we have professional divers doing that job. They're as respected as any other tradesmen, if not more. Hard hat scuba divers are cool.[/QUOTE]

    Yeah. This is so cool:
    ...
  22. Hear hear. Things like ring girls are inherently...

    Look, I get the concept. Men like looking. Men can derive a lot of sexual pleasure just looking at sexy young folks in revealing clothes, which is why businesses that cater to men employ sexy young...
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    Imo, it would be generous to repay all the $200....

    Imo, it would be generous to repay all the $200.

    It wouldn't be particularly stupid though.

    It seems to me like some sort of game theory scenario. A long-term strategy involving paying back the...
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    Well, Caroline Le Couteur insists that her...

    Well, Caroline Le Couteur insists that her proposals were about providing more non-meat options and that everything was to be voluntary, not compulsory. It's being reported that she proposed making...
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    Depression is VERY common. I had a chronic...

    Depression is VERY common. I had a chronic version of it for many years. Here's something witty posted about it online:

    "Therapy
    -Expensive
    -Years of hard work
    -Emotionaly draining
    ...
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