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    Poll: Well, you are wrong. Still, for the sake of...

    Well, you are wrong.

    Still, for the sake of argument, please justify your claim here. Or is it just something you believe?

    This is actually an interesting point, and I am not sure that the...
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    Poll: So suddenly Wiki is the truth sayer? LOL. I...

    So suddenly Wiki is the truth sayer? LOL.

    I didn't provide the link to support what I say. I know I am rather isolated being rational and rigorous. These dudes are mostly PhD's repeating again and...
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    Poll: Sure, but it is not because we routinely believe...

    Sure, but it is not because we routinely believe other people have a mind that other people a have mind.

    We are logical being and logic in itself doesn't prove anything true. What it does is prove...
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    Poll: Indeed. It is proven, many times over, again and...

    Indeed. It is proven, many times over, again and again by successive generations of mathematicians and school children. It is never proven true.

    If you understood logic you'd know that logic...
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    Poll: Theorem... For the few people who...

    Theorem...



    For the few people who understand logic here, a theorem is never proven true. Mathematicians like to say you can't falsify a theorem.

    Well, they are wrong, but it is still true...
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    Poll: What's your point?! EB

    [/FONT][/COLOR] In every instance materiality continuity is maintained.

    A mathematical theorem is

    from https://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/theorem.html note parenthesis conditions.
    ...
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    Poll: No, you didn't "concur with everyone else". The...

    You are contradicting yourself.

    It has to be significant that the only one to find that the question doesn't make sense is also the one who has a training in mathematical logic.
    EB[/QUOTE]

    Not...
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    Poll: I can only repeat myself.

    I can only repeat myself.



    Any other definition is equivocation.

    This definition makes the argument invalid.

    I also don't understand how the question could possibly not make sense when...
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    Poll: You are contradicting yourself. It has to be...

    Any other definition is equivocation.

    This definition makes the argument invalid.

    I also don't understand how the question could possibly not make sense when most people who commented and voted...
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    Poll: Read again: To prove theorems,...

    Nobody explained the reasoning motivating their votes, so it is fair to assume it is intuition.

    And if not, same thing, since at some point whatever we think inevitably comes down to...
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    Poll: When we interpret arguments, we go for the...

    When we interpret arguments, we go for the proximate definition.

    This is exactly what nearly everybody who commented did.

    The first definition given by dictionaries is as follows:



    Any...
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    Poll: Come to think about it, the only immortals I know...

    Come to think about it, the only immortals I know of are our "Académiciens" here in France, of the Académie française, the institution in charge of the French language, providing proper definitions...
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    Poll: I read it all. EB EDIT Thanks for casting...

    I read it all.
    EB

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    Thanks for casting your vote.



    Nobody explained the reasoning motivating their votes, so it is fair to assume it is intuition.
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    Poll: I asked your personal opinion on the validity of...

    I asked your personal opinion on the validity of the argument, not on the truth of the conclusion.
    EB
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    Poll: Thanks for your comment and your vote. ???...

    Thanks for your comment and your vote.



    ???

    "In your personal opinion, do you feel that the following implication is valid or invalid?" How could that be a trick question?!

    Sometimes I...
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    Poll: If I am immortal, then I will soon die

    In your personal opinion, do you feel that the following implication is valid or invalid?

    And either way, can you try to explain why?



    Thank you to vote before posting any comment.
    EB
  17. Yet another ad hominem. I'm not sure how you...

    Whether a certain sentence of the English language is ambiguous or not isn't to be decided by some know it all in France (or for that matter England),[/QUOTE]

    Yet another ad hominem. I'm not sure...
  18. There is no ambiguity in McGee's argument....

    If that clearly is so, you could clearly substitute each of their occurrences with "the Republican who (will) win the election" and maintain all readings, including the one that appears paradoxical....
  19. No. There is no reason based on the argument as...

    The two "it" both clearly refer to "A Republican will win the election".[/quote]

    They clearly don't. "If a Republican will win the election is not Reagan who wins, a Republican will win the...
  20. But that's also what the original argument says....

    Put into the context of the election poll and our memories and beliefs about Reagan, Anderson and Carter, we can still be "tricked". Tricked by what? There is no "it".
    EB[/QUOTE]

    Are we though?...
  21. Tricked? How so? What is there in this argument...

    Sure there is. "It" is a pronoun, pronouns don't have intrinsic reference but are assigned a referent from context. The context offers "the Republican who wins" in the premise, but in the conclusion,...
  22. Sorry, I don't get it. What are your two...

    If so then you will have no difficulty producing a formalisation complete with the equivocation you think there in McGee's argument. Your formalisation will need to be convincing as a model of...
  23. If so then you will have no difficulty producing...

    If so then you will have no difficulty producing a formalisation complete with the equivocation you think there in McGee's argument. Your formalisation will need to be convincing as a model of...
  24. We can formalise the argument without any...

    We can formalise the argument without any ambiguity.

    We start with:



    Obviously, we have:
  25. OK, I broadly agree with everything which has...

    OK, I broadly agree with everything which has been said. I would express the problem differently, though. To my mind, the problem is that our belief in this case is not grounded in the argument.
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