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    That behavior is well documented. People prefer...

    That behavior is well documented. People prefer to give their money to wealthier persons than less wealthy persons. Maybe it makes them feel wealthy too. Who knows.
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    What's happened to faith here? Why is it...

    What's happened to faith here? Why is it necessary to find a scientific explanation for something as patently religious as a Noah fable? It's either part of religious creed or it isn't. Isn't...
  3. We seem to be in agreement then because I'm also...

    This is just word pudding, man. History isn't just random things happening for no reason, guided by grand ideas like 'totalitarianism' that magically compel people to do things.[/QUOTE]

    We seem to...
  4. I tend to take a more general view when it comes...

    I tend to take a more general view when it comes to Christianity and Fascism in Europe. My bias against religious woo I acknowledge. My take begins by recognizing that all the nations of Europe at...
  5. A very, very, very, thin veneer. To Tim ONeill's...

    A very, very, very, thin veneer. To Tim ONeill's credit he has likened the Roman Church of Galileo's time to today's ISIS. That is a pretty damning comparison.
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    Trumpo doesn't know any big words. Think...

    Trumpo doesn't know any big words. Think eight-years-old.
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    And the ones that can read have the same...

    Exactly. The people that need to know don't read.[/QUOTE]

    And the ones that can read have the same eight-year-old mentality.
  8. Certainly the brain here was not rational. Lots...

    Certainly the brain here was not rational. Lots of this stuff in religion.

    I used to think that we must have lost much in translation, either that or the listeners were aware of some...
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    And according to many adherents the child was...

    This is an absolutely classic example of what I was talking about when I mentioned how that every attempt to resolve the Problem of Evil attenuates one or more of the Omni-'s in question. Why would...
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    I think it is very helpful to see ourselves as...

    The Christian, Inca, Aztec religions and others certainly all do this by their rulers claiming direct descendancy from these magic beings.[/QUOTE]

    I'm not sure where you would draw the line...
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    Lots of Amish in my neck of the woods. They do...

    Luddites, those who reject technology, have been around since the 19th century.

    In the 60s it was the counterculture 'get back to the land' mantra.

    The Christian engines I worked with...
  12. Obviously then, he deserved his fate. How...

    Obviously then, he deserved his fate. How convenient.

    I think it more noble and defensible to believe that the establishment that tortured and burned him alive was the greater evil. Therefore,...
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    We need a DNA test to confirm that Putin, Kim and...

    What are you even talking about. Russia is the ally of Iran and China, the former of whom is under constant threat by American forces for not honoring a nuclear treaty Trump backed out of, and the...
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    My latest coffee iteration is to combine one...

    My latest coffee iteration is to combine one tablespoon of grinds with 1.5 cups of water and then let it steep at room temperature for a day giving it an occasional shake. If I don't use it within...
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    The Christian, Inca, Aztec religions and others...

    The Christian, Inca, Aztec religions and others certainly all do this by their rulers claiming direct descendancy from these magic beings.
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    One good thing scientific thought enables is to...

    One good thing scientific thought enables is to allow us to differentiate between what is emotional and what is rational, to at least make an attempt to separate subjectivity from objectivity. If...
  17. It is impossible for us today, particularly those...

    Agree. Just as any dedicated muslim historian who uncovered indisputable proof that Muhammad was a drunkard bi-sexual would never mention the fact to anyone in the leadership of ISIS. Self censorship...
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    Yep. That's what the universe is. No need nor...

    Yep. That's what the universe is. No need nor evidence for all manner of invisible, magical, mysterious, religious, woo creatures with abracadabra powers.
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    It means it doesn't count if you're magic. Those...

    It means it doesn't count if you're magic. Those arguments are so terribly clever. There's the other one along the lines "Everything that began to exist..."

    Is it just me or does it seem they've...
  20. If you haven't read any of Jared Diamond's work I...

    A great smackdown and learning opportunity for historically ignorant anti-theists[/QUOTE]

    If you haven't read any of Jared Diamond's work I can see how such a silly conclusion could be reached.
  21. I think we're all enjoying the discussion. Tim...

    I think we're all enjoying the discussion. Tim certainly knows his facts, gotta give him that. Tim says:


    "Almost never" and "never" are not the same thing. The above was Tim ONeill's response...
  22. Slaves voting for their favorite master.

    Do as these fucktards are pathetically, ironically, hilariously-were-it-not-for-the-consequences instructing you to do:

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    Slaves voting for their favorite master.
  23. Whatever you say or do, do it and say it with...

    Whatever you say or do, do it and say it with gusto and authority. Just tell him he's too old, too ugly and not your type.
  24. This makes the most sense to me as well,...

    This makes the most sense to me as well, particularly in Tim's agreement that the Roman Church was like modern day ISIS in weilding authority. If one is living under such conditions it is impossible...
  25. I understand what you are saying. But "Natural...

    Every pursuit was a religious pursuit because all those pursuits had to be reconciled with religious teaching. The distinction you are making is hair splitting. People were only free to pursue...
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