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    That it is seen as a "plot hole" is largely due...

    That it is seen as a "plot hole" is largely due to ignorance and/or rejection of Bible teaching concerning the origin of evil.

    God created all things for His own purpose and pleasure. God created...
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    Ultimately, it is because vengeance belongs to...

    Ultimately, it is because vengeance belongs to God. God will take vengeance, so it is needless for us to do so. Moreover, it is an expression of power. As Paul said, in Christ, I know how to abound...
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    I don't urge any such thing. We are not to treat...

    Yes, I can see that you and the atheists assembled here agree on a great many things. Nothing new there.

    Again, what is the fruit of your labor? What good is it to wander around urging people to...
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    There are only two possibilities for anyone in...

    So what are you doing here? You're stumping around for slavery, copy-pasting some incoherent nonsense your pastor told you and annoying people, but you're not accomplishing anything. You cannot...
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    No, I said "refuse Him," not refuse the role He...

    No, I said "refuse Him," not refuse the role He has prescribed for us. The Bible says He has mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He will He hardens. So those who refuse Him and never repent...
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    Yes, that is correct! All men are subject to...

    Yes, that is correct! All men are subject to God's judgment, which is "obey or face the consequences." But all are sinners by nature. You don't get credit for trying to obey the law of God; only the...
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    As the New Testament uses it, it's not a metaphor...

    Of course. It certainly is equivocation because its a metaphor - about obedience. And there are many forms of 'slavery', not all of which are identically immoral.

    As I said earlier, much of what...
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    Here's a chemist (a practicing scientist) who...

    Prove it.

    There are claims whose facts are not in evidence: that life doesn't come from nonlife. You just assert that without evidence.

    See, my own knowledge of O-chem in fact insist that life...
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    There are only two alternatives - either you have...

    True, that's called the hedonic treadmill. But you talk as if there's no alternative but either that or "abasement" to God. Its a false dichotomy. What I've been getting at is that the soteriological...
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    Try defending a murderer in a court of law that...

    I can't speak for any other members...

    But this post sure sounds, to me, like "I can't answer your questions without overturning my cart of assertions so I'm not interested."
    Assertions like...
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    That's still totally subjective. God does exist...

    That's still totally subjective. God does exist and He is the standard of good. And there are none that are good, except God.



    But slaveholders thought slavery was in their best interest....
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    Your question did not interest me because it...

    Here’s the post:


    Later I added:



    Please tell us the difference between life and what you call non life in terms of its parts. Is CO2 alive, dead, alive, dead, alive, dead, etc? And if...
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    But that's just your opinion. Without objective...

    No, it is fucking not. Slavery is HORRIBLE.[/quote]

    But that's just your opinion. Without objective morality from God, someone else might have a different opinion. Poverty is horrible, too, and...
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    Nice that you brought up COVID. This is a good...

    Nice that you brought up COVID. This is a good example of what I'm talking about. I certainly had a peace of mind about it that I never could have had if I were still and atheist, when it started up...
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    It is you folks who are missing the point. Yes,...

    Yes, the slave is his property - this is a picture of God's redeemed people being His own possession. And it's in the law that the slave must not die, because God will always keep His people, and...
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    The Bible doesn't condemn slavery. And why would...

    The Bible doesn't condemn slavery. And why would it, when the teaching of the cross is that we've become dead to sin by the body of Christ (Rom 7:4), that we're the slaves (doulos) of Jesus Christ?...
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    Yes, the slave is his property - this is a...

    Yes, the slave is his property - this is a picture of God's redeemed people being His own possession. And it's in the law that the slave must not die, because God will always keep His people, and...
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    Which is what? This is completely...

    I really wish you'd answer my original question but I'm not holding my breath.[/quote]

    Which is what?




    This is completely ridiculous. Life is complex chemistry, you say. That statement is...
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    Nobody every observed life coming from non-life...

    Nobody every observed life coming from non-life and turning into people. But there were many eyewitnesses of Jesus's resurrection. These same witnesses likewise did confirm the word of God with...
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    Because collagen and red blood cells plainly...

    I've heard this claim about dragons before. I always wonder what these "various cultures" you mention called the many smaller, pony-sized or dog-sized or chicken-sized dinosaurs. And, you assert...
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    Magic isn't unbiblical. Pharaoh's magicians were...

    No evidence of magic (which is unbiblical) either. There is of course the inability to explain a process beyond comprehension or defining with the best words (like me).

    I suppose it would be...
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    No, you don't know that it did; it's a...

    No, you don't know that it did; it's a preposterous idea invented to hide from God.


    You don't have billions of years to work with. But even if you did, molecules won't change into man, plants,...
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    Not quite. I joined in June 2005 at the age of...

    Not quite. I joined in June 2005 at the age of 15. I had become an atheist at 14. Now, I'm 30. I was half my current age when I joined! I became a Christian in January 2019, and that because God...
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    Or from a rock. Whichever way you want to...

    That's because we didn't. If there are other things you are confused about, we may be able to help.[/QUOTE]
    Or from a rock. Whichever way you want to describe it. Either way, works for me, as you're...
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    I say this as someone who was an atheist for 14...

    That's a trick of words. You assume the universe is "created" and the assumption necessitates a "creator". First you'd have to prove it's created before saying it's "evident" that there's a Creator....
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