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  1. Setting aside that any connection need not be...

    Setting aside that any connection need not be immediate (or direct) to still be partly causal, does acknowledging the existence of differences bear any connection to different gender identities, do...
  2. I see. I must have missed that part then.

    I see. I must have missed that part then.
  3. Ok. So that’s why you avoided answering his...

    Ok. So that’s why you avoided answering his question directly. 😊

    Fair enough.
  4. I didn’t say you had, in that particular...

    I didn’t say you had, in that particular instance. In that instance, what you did was avoid answering the question directly, thus avoiding agreeing that brain differences seem likely to account for...
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    It could be the opposite. If intelligence were...

    It could be the opposite.

    If intelligence were positively correlated to income (which doesn’t seem unreasonable) then the lowest earners have the most children and the highest earners have the...
  6. No kidding. I know that already. And I myself...

    No kidding. I know that already. And I myself did not say 'the patriarchy'. You did, although without defining what you meant by that. I could agree that 'the patriarchy' does not exist in quite the...
  7. Read my post again. I edited it, possibly while...

    Non. Toni believes that male and female brains are different, but that this difference has no causative effect on the gender pay gap. This conjunction of beliefs is very unlikely to be true.

    My...
  8. You're just saying the same thing again. So my...

    Lol. Thank you for illustrating my point, which is as untenable in the opposite direction as saying that brain differences have zero influence.

    Also, just so it's clear, I did not say 'the...
  9. Lol. Thank you for illustrating my point, which...

    Lol. Thank you for illustrating my point, which is as untenable in the opposite direction as saying that brain differences have zero influence.

    Also, just so it's clear, I did not say 'the...
  10. As you point out, it would seem inconsistent not...

    As you point out, it would seem inconsistent not to agree that differences in brains are at least a partial explanation for the latter.

    Toni probably overstates the role of social influences (such...
  11. There's a lot in there. :) Gender dysphoria as...

    There's a lot in there. :)

    Gender dysphoria as real as Schizophrenia (and indeed homosexuality). Check.

    Now, if someone identifies as a woman, while having a man's body (ie the rest of their...
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    Does anyone on the actual left use the term...

    Does anyone on the actual left use the term social justice warriors as a pejorative? If so, I was not aware of it.
  13. Now I feel a bit bad, because, well, (and you're...

    I agree with you about the claims that having a supposed ‘female brain’ should not mean you can use female showers, refuges etc.

    But your last two paragraphs confuse me in the way I previously...
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    By twitter? I haven’t looked closely and I don’t...

    By twitter? I haven’t looked closely and I don’t use twitter, but corporate virtue signalling would be high on my list of suspects.

    Which is why the OP is making a point about the sort of cynical...
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    You nailed it, imo.

    You nailed it, imo.
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    Fair enough. He pushed her to the ground after...

    It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man...
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    Well, we know at least some cops would lie about...

    Well, we know at least some cops would lie about it, to cover up for a colleague. Now it seems we might have someone a bit like that, possibly sitting at a computer terminal wearing a fancy dress...
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    It’s because of people like you making up false...

    It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man...
  19. I agree with you about the claims that having a...

    For the most part, I don't think it matters.

    There are a few subjects where segregation on the basis of sex are reasonable and appropriate in my opinion. And for the most part, I'm perfectly...
  20. I’m a bit confused as to why the above matters. ...

    I’m a bit confused as to why the above matters.

    If their gender is female then that’s what it is.

    And given that it’s unlikely to be because of fairy dust, then there’ll be a physical...
  21. My long answer to that probably involves a number...

    What are the consequences of that? What changes - for them as well as for everyone else?[/QUOTE]

    My long answer to that probably involves a number of things I’ve already said in the thread.

    My...
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    Is that Police misconduct, or more just...

    Is that Police misconduct, or more just under-regulated free market capitalism? Or a bit of both. :D
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    Except that she didn’t hit him. That’s a false...

    Except that she didn’t hit him. That’s a false and offensive statement that needs to be retracted.
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    No point in speculating, imo. Though I agree with...

    No point in speculating, imo. Though I agree with you that it's possible it wasn't his first time, and if any sort of case is taken against him, it might be looked into. I would not presume anything...
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    Probably because it’s not actually true.

    Probably because it’s not actually true.
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