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    Poll: It should be obvious that comparing the...

    Why don't you do the work of demonstrating that that is the case?

    I do concede some path dependence, like Westminster-system monarchies vs. republics. Can you demonstrate some additional path...
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    What are you even saying with those quotation...

    If what counts are ideas and your “authenticity” then no.[/quote]
    What are you even saying with those quotation marks. It counts when somebody has been a supporter of a progressive cause for longer...
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    There's changing and there's triangulating....

    There's changing and there's triangulating. Changing is when you take in new information and alter your views accordingly, which is good; it's usually something that happens randomly in life, and...
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    Then don't use that rubric. It's not...

    You're being disingenuous. Bernie has shifted his views over time as well, but he has never been a Republican, and his current positions are all better than Warren's.[/QUOTE] If he has shifted views...
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    You're being disingenuous. Bernie has shifted his...

    Not by itself, but it fits a pattern and forces people to justify their support for the inferior candidate.[/QUOTE] What pattern? Frankly, I am much more worried and concerned about a candidate who...
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    Not by itself, but it fits a pattern and forces...

    Not by itself, but it fits a pattern and forces people to justify their support for the inferior candidate.
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    I am neither right nor left.[/QUOTE]

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  8. It's heartwarming when an issue brings together...

    When Bush left office and Obama entered office, I was hoping he would look into crimes committed by Bush. When he failed to do so I was told - by Obama supporters no less - that holding Bush...
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    Warren had said that she'll be taking their money...

    Warren had said that she'll be taking their money in the general election, just not in the primary. About a week ago, she seemed to indicate otherwise, which is promising, but she's still fine with...
  10. Um, yes? Why would you think that taking power...

    Obama had the responsibility to 'undo' Bush's baddity?
    I wasn't aware of that.[/QUOTE]

    Um, yes? Why would you think that taking power after someone like Bush leaves doesn't give one the...
  11. Did those voters materialize from thin air, or...

    Obama isn't the issue. It is the people that voted for Trump that are. They were very angry at the GOP in 2012 and did everything they could to stop a Romney nomination. They won in 2016, and the...
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    Poll: lol According to the Economist Intelligence Unit,...

    lol According to the Economist Intelligence Unit, a UK-based corporation. You're just channeling capitalist first-world propaganda as if it's neutral an unbiased.

    EDIT: measures such as these also...
  13. Ding ding. Almost as if Obama never really undid...

    Yeah.
    Our profile would be better if we'd gone from Bush to Trump. Then we could say that the reins were out of our hands...

    But going from Bush - Obama - Trump, we're clearly doing this to...
  14. After the revolution, this post will be framed...

    After the revolution, this post will be framed and hung in the town square for people to throw overripe tomatoes at.
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    Jarhyn, you're smarter than this. If someone...

    I fully support the violent disruption of the health insurance industry. They have been rent seeking on human lives since the industry first started.

    This said, I agree that Warren is generally...
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    In what ways is it more well-thought out? Is it...

    You've provided zero evidence that Bernie is at all ahead of Liz on LGBT issues. Plus, any person who actually cares about those issues and the people impacted wouldn't give flying fuck which one...
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    Totally false on all counts. Bernie's plans are...

    Totally false on all counts. Bernie's plans are detailed and comprehensive and budgeted, no matter how many times people repeat what you just said about them. It's Warren who has no implementation...
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    On literally every issue you people claim to care...

    On literally every issue you people claim to care about as "progressives", there is no comparison to be made between Bernie and Liz that doesn't put Bernie miles ahead and decades before Liz and...
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    HRC voted for DOMA. It's not about LGBTQ issues....

    Morgan Cox is on the board of HRC. It would make sense that he would donate to candidates who he felt were supportive of LGBTQ issues.[/quote]
    HRC voted for DOMA. It's not about LGBTQ issues.

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    Since you brought up Sanders in this thread to...

    Those are articles I found as well. I don't fault Sanders for not being with the present day times 36 years ago. We all know him as a progressive. As far as I can remember, there was no talk of...
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    I got my issues mixed up actually, 1983 was when...

    Really? I’d be very interested in a link demonstrating that.[/QUOTE]

    I got my issues mixed up actually, 1983 was when he advocated for gay pride in Vermont. He was writing letters to Nixon saying...
  22. Because they do the work that makes the thing the...

    Because they do the work that makes the thing the company exists to provide.


    The workers directly, or a state controlled by workers.


    Everybody should be able to survive and have their basic...
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    By the way, the guy in the audience who asked the...

    By the way, the guy in the audience who asked the question was Morgan Cox, one of Elizabeth Warren's corporate megadonors. In other words, it was staged. Welcome back to 2016.
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    1983 if not earlier

    And?

    It isn't as though there was any widespread thought of gay marriage during the AIDS crisis when most people assumed that AIDS was a 'gay' disease, if indeed, they could even bring themselves...
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    Funny, but let's put this in context. A sick burn...

    This.. and much, much more here: http://mentalfloss.com/amazingfactgenerator

    [/QUOTE]

    Funny, but let's put this in context. A sick burn is one thing, being a Republican until the age most...
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