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  1. Having a lot of money if you are in trouble never...

    Having a lot of money if you are in trouble never hurts. The poor never do so well.
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    The reasons that they give for rejecting Jesus as...

    They were Jews following a Jew, but the question is, did this Jesus the Jew meet the criteria of the prophesied Messiah. That's the issue. Orthodox Judaism says no, for the given reasons, he did...
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    Yet again, not having come down in the last...

    Yet again, not having come down in the last shower I am familiar with the apologetics.....so I am more interested in what you may have to say in your own words, and not just be supplied with reading...
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    We have nothing from Jesus, what you refer to...

    Who give a list of reasons why Jesus does not meet the criteria of prophesy as it is described. The same material that Christians tried to incorporate into their own theology, but apparently...
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    They have their reasons for rating the material,...

    So 3 out of 3 gave it 5 stars. You assume you're right about your position and therefore they are deluded or whatever. And it looks like you didn't have the time and patience to actually read the...
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    Who give a list of reasons why Jesus does not...

    They were Jews following a Jew, but the question is, did this Jesus the Jew meet the criteria of the prophesied Messiah. That's the issue. Orthodox Judaism says no, for the given reasons, he did...
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    I am asking you a question. The question...

    If ALL of these attempts are so flawed then why were all three Christian reviews of this book 5 stars? I guess you won't click the link - but I'll quote it just in case you have the time or patience...
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    They were Jews following a Jew, but the question...

    People change their minds for many and varied reasons, however, the reasons why orthodox Judaism reject Jesus as the prophesied Messiah remain valid, ie, the prophesy is not fulfilled in spite of the...
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    Satan as the devil is a later development. In...

    Satan as the devil is a later development. In the book of Job it was God who initiated the wager and test of Job's piety and instructs Satan on what he can or cannot do. God is fully in control of...
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    People change their minds for many and varied...

    Orthodox Jews give good reason why they reject Jesus as the prophesied Messiah....and there is evidence that NT writers tried to make Jesus fit/fulfill the prophesy.[/QUOTE]

    Generally its their...
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    Orthodox Jews give good reason why they reject...

    Jesus quotes nothing because he wrote nothing. Anonymous Christian writers have Jesus quoting the OT and referring to the prophets.

    Two different things.

    It was the writers of the gospel...
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    I am aware of the attempts that have been made to...

    I am aware of the attempts that have been made to sanitize bible verses pertaining to hell and damnation. It is nothing new. We have been around long enough to know the rationales being used....
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    I'm not trying to do anything. I have already...

    I'm not trying to do anything. I have already pointed out that it has nothing to do with me, just what the verses say and how they have been interpreted. You misrepresent my position.



    There...
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    Geek Mafia- Rick Dakan. Entertaining, alternate...

    Geek Mafia- Rick Dakan. Entertaining, alternate lifestyles, haha.
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    Some even argue that there is no problem, that...

    Some even argue that there is no problem, that everything is under control....so I guess we just strap in and enjoy the ride to whatever eventuates.
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    Instead of answering a simple question, a...

    Instead of answering a simple question, a relevant question, you go into deflection mode....atheists, atheists that. The question is important because the answer determines what we are supposed to...
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    Yes or no....does someone need to believe in...

    A simple yes or no would be fine, thanks.[/QUOTE]


    Do you want to be saved?[/QUOTE]

    Yes or no....does someone need to believe in Jesus in order to be saved?
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    A simple yes or no would be fine, thanks.

    Don't you need to 'believe in Jesus' in order to be saved?[/QUOTE]

    I'd love to answer that but there's a no preaching rule here and I don't want to trigger any snowflake atheists.[/QUOTE]

    A...
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    That's a creative interpretation. The Gnostics ...

    Well yes the physical body that is. The souls go to hades. It's well within the biblical concept of God, who could wake souls from their sleep or ressurect the dead.

    No contradiction if it's both...
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    It was written both as a parable and a warning of...

    I go along with DBT who says "it reads what its says" i.e. parable. I share your irony.[/QUOTE]

    It was written both as a parable and a warning of what could happen if the message was not...
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    Hopefully so.

    Hopefully so.
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    Don't you need to 'believe in Jesus' in order to...

    Don't you need to 'believe in Jesus' in order to be saved?
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    That's right. Even a death sentence for lack of...

    That's right. Even a death sentence for lack of faith is not only unjust but absurd.
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    Chris Date gives his explanation, that does not...

    Its a parable ... Both men are still dead in Hades, underworld if you will. A place BEFORE the Judgement and not the final punishment Lake of fire. Its a parable.

    Revelation 20:14

    And death and...
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    The parable of the rich man and Lazarus; Luke...

    The parable of the rich man and Lazarus; Luke 16:19 - 31

    The Rich Man and Lazarus

    “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at...
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