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  1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmZYEO59Gdw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmZYEO59Gdw
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H02BPY7vEms

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H02BPY7vEms
  3. Poll: I guess it was intentionally meant to be...

    I guess it was intentionally meant to be inherently realistic. The only significant tweak was trying to use non-loaded categories, in order to try to reduce unhelpful associations, such as might...
  4. Poll: What ronburgundy said, more or less. Though I...

    But if that is an option, then might one equivalently write C as:



    C': In a situation where a blue and a green application candidate are equally qualified, a green is permitted to be selected...
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    I do think it's a very significant statement. ...

    I do think it's a very significant statement.

    It doesn't tell us much about what the 'I' is, of course. It could be a soul. It could be god. It could be a very intelligent shade of the colour blue...
  6. Poll: Thoughtful overall analysis (your post I mean)...

    Thoughtful overall analysis (your post I mean) with which I would not take much issue. Regarding the above specifically (for which I have omitted the last part about college applications because it's...
  7. True. The cartoon is not very good in that...

    At the time Trans-Jordan existed the portrayed division of Israel did not exist.[/QUOTE]

    True. The cartoon is not very good in that respect, or for the stereotypical portrayal of the immigrants. ...
  8. Obviously. Why do you think I said, in the line...

    Poverty is a reason to want to move. It's not a reason to be able to claim refugee status. Economic migrants are not refugees.[/QUOTE]

    Obviously. Why do you think I said, in the line directly...
  9. Theoretically perhaps, or eventually. I regularly...

    Theoretically perhaps, or eventually. I regularly read in what are usually reliable places that at the moment there is a great need for many people to do the jobs that (especially young) indigenous...
  10. I am honestly not au fait with an overall...

    Or an inside man/woman to act as an useful idiot. Like Angela Merkel in Europe. Or most of the Democratic candidates who want to decriminalize illegal entry and abolish ICE.[/QUOTE]

    I am honestly...
  11. Ok.

    Some, but not nearly as much as mass migration would provide. Due to automation needs for unskilled labor are less and less.[/QUOTE]

    Ok.
  12. I think I'd go along with nearly all of that. ...

    I am not saying end all immigration, but that immigration should be regulated and legal.
    And taxation and economics is not the entire picture. UK (or EU or US) are not benefited by letting in...
  13. That's different from saying I would advocate for...

    And then you reversed yourself by saying they have a moral right to demand entry ("open or die") because they are like ants in the movie Antz or something.[/QUOTE]

    That's different from saying I...
  14. I'm in favour of restricted immigration. ...

    I'm in favour of restricted immigration.

    Though I don't kid myself that I'm saying that because of anything other than self-interest, ultimately.
  15. I'm pretty sure I've already answered that one...

    I'm pretty sure I've already answered that one with a no.

    If you want to have a ding-dong with one of those 'LEFTIES' who say such things (if there are any, or if there are more than a very small...
  16. To the best of my knowledge, immigrants are a net...

    To the best of my knowledge, immigrants are a net benefit, in terms of taxation and economics, in the UK at least. I even read that the average foreign immigrant is actually less likely to be on...
  17. And do you know how they did it? Or at least...

    And do you know how they did it? Or at least partly how they did it, ever since they could build enough boats that would get them a fair ways? Google exploitation or colonialism. And don't even try...
  18. Go carefully as regards your supposed moral...

    Go carefully as regards your supposed moral justification to have what they don't. That's what I'm saying. It's not that strong a moral argument.

    Plus, it's complicated. Your guys fucked their...
  19. Do you remember the film, 'Antz', when the ants...

    Do you remember the film, 'Antz', when the ants realised there were many more of them than the grasshoppers?

    From these guys pov, and it's arguably at least partly valid, you're just a lucky...
  20. You're kidding, right?

    You're kidding, right?
  21. Yes. Though that said, I would not say that just...

    I differentiate between regulated, legal migration and demanding to be let into the country just because you show up at the border (US) or are floating in a dinghy off the coast of Libya...
  22. I gave you two reasons. I could elaborate, but I...

    I gave you two reasons. I could elaborate, but I would have thought that national social and ecomomic self-interest are terms that would be understood by most people. I mean, they are partly the...
  23. I don't doubt it. But I don't think you should...

    I don't doubt it.

    But I don't think you should make blanket statements about people's reasons for trying to migrate and essentially call migration a scam. That's going too far, imo.
  24. Yes, we are. You've stopped attributing to me...

    Yes, we are. You've stopped attributing to me views I don't have and things I haven't said.



    National social and economic self-interest would be a big one, or would be two big ones, if you...
  25. In all seriousness, have you forgotten to take...

    Ok you can stop there. The mind-reading classes are obviously not working for you.[/QUOTE]

    But you claim to be the mind reader! It was proven that people are lying about asylum just so they can...
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