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    Bad things getting eschewed sounds sensible. You...

    Bad things getting eschewed sounds sensible. You don't need to be religious as you know, to be that sensible. The theists bad-things is the not-to-do things e.g. Described by Jesus and the...
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    It wasn't attractive so I didn't become a...

    My point followed up on the same overall theme of your exchange with skepticalbip about how becoming a theist had changed your life for the better. So, no, it wasn't a nitpick of the two stand-alone...
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    Hi Southern, I don't think its quite correct imo...

    I get it. You found something that you can identify with as well as something that you feel made you a better person. I don't have a problem with that specifically, but I do have a problem with some...
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    Patience my friend. I made that response...

    To be atheist is to be skeptical, therefore to be theist is not?

    Do atheist have a different kind of skepticism than all else or is skepticism just skepticism?[/QUOTE]

    Very strange, no...
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    Perhap we'll wait a little more for 'science' to...

    Perhap we'll wait a little more for 'science' to "sort it out" then we can put it to rest, once and for all. I could be an atheist-Christian if it came to it. :)




    There's a whole mish-mash of...
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    You have a point, but Its an everyday expression...

    Misattribution means you're thanking the wrong person. You did the behaviors to become healthier. Including God into the story is like walking the dog and then saying "Thank you God for walking the...
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    Thank God yes, I wanted to be healthy again.

    ^^^ The heart of theism in a nutshell. Misattribution. :D[/QUOTE]

    Thank God yes, I wanted to be healthy again.
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    You wouldn't be able to tell what I was, amongst...

    It sounds the same. Only now you have a different group to hang out with, try to look pious in front of them. Rather than a rush at the sight of an attractive lady, now that rush comes at the sight...
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    Funny enough I sometimes used to sleep lesser...

    Funny enough I sometimes used to sleep lesser than the 8 hours and I suppose .... I lacked the serotonin levels.



    I wasn't out of shape in my earlier days but I sort of let go for some time. I...
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    I liked my old group identity. Getting out,...

    I liked my old group identity. Getting out, sometimes getting drunk with the lads trying to look macho in front of the ladies after a few. Although one good thing now is, I don't try or care anymore,...
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    Atheists seem to like huge jobs or was it that...

    https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?20372-Why-do-people-believe-in-hell/page25

    (Post # 248. list was so long I put the link above)

    So many...which one do you suggest? Perhaps I or...
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    Or was it that Jesus rebuked the pharisees/...

    Who give a list of reasons why Jesus does not meet the criteria of prophesy as it is described. The same material that Christians tried to incorporate into their own theology, but apparently...
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    Yes of course... a no according to othordox...

    They were Jews following a Jew, but the question is, did this Jesus the Jew meet the criteria of the prophesied Messiah. That's the issue. Orthodox Judaism says no, for the given reasons, he did...
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    Well the gospel writers were Jews still.... while...

    People change their minds for many and varied reasons, however, the reasons why orthodox Judaism reject Jesus as the prophesied Messiah remain valid, ie, the prophesy is not fulfilled in spite of the...
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    https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?20372-W...

    https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?20372-Why-do-people-believe-in-hell/page25

    (Post # 248. list was so long I put the link above)

    So many...which one do you suggest? Perhaps I or...
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    The Christians were right (and Jews, in that...

    The Christians were right (and Jews, in that there is a God)
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    Seen it many times it is funny. I'd change the...

    Seen it many times it is funny. I'd change the order though and exchange comedians for Christians who would be in the place of the Jews lol. :D
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    Generally its their view. Like I sort of said...

    Orthodox Jews give good reason why they reject Jesus as the prophesied Messiah....and there is evidence that NT writers tried to make Jesus fit/fulfill the prophesy.[/QUOTE]

    Generally its their...
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    Two different things, indeed yes. Both are...

    Jesus quotes nothing because he wrote nothing. Anonymous Christian writers have Jesus quoting the OT and referring to the prophets.

    Two different things.

    It was the writers of the gospel...
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    Well yes the physical body that is. The souls go...

    Well yes the physical body that is. The souls go to hades. It's well within the biblical concept of God, who could wake souls from their sleep or ressurect the dead.

    No contradiction if it's both...
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    I go along with DBT who says "it reads what its...

    I go along with DBT who says "it reads what its says" i.e. parable. I share your irony.
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    How much has scripture changed, from the times of...

    How much has scripture changed, from the times of those 2nd century leaders in your list (or earlier) to the scripture we have available to us now? It hasn't changed of course, so what makes them...
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    Hey Ex, Considering getting Fudges book. Still...

    Hey Ex, Considering getting Fudges book. Still much to read but nice one(off to work).




    Its a parable ... Both men are still dead in Hades, underworld if you will. A place BEFORE the...
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    Cheers excreationist, going to go through your...

    Cheers excreationist, going to go through your links now and learn something.
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    That's strange. Jesus himself quotes from the OT,...

    That's strange. Jesus himself quotes from the OT, and the NT centre's around Jesus and his teachings + quotes. Some judaic teachings (Pharisees & co.) are not compitable with the Prophets of the OT.
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