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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
    A law is a law ...I just haven't seen much on this particular one carried out in the bible.

    What does that even mean? There's a loophole in the Bible, where men sleeping with men is offensive to God unless their love for the guy was real? Sounds like the message is so simple you can add just about anything you have to to it.
    Why the failure of clear thinking?

    God has a law about sodomy. Nobody in the bible is reported as being stoned to death for sodomy.
    What does that tell us?
    That nobody got caught?

    Or that deterrence works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
    A law is a law ...I just haven't seen much on this particular one carried out in the bible.

    Why the failure of clear thinking?

    God has a law about sodomy. Nobody in the bible is reported as being stoned to death for sodomy.
    What does that tell us?
    That nobody got caught?

    Or that deterrence works?
    Or that the Bible isn't a collection of statistics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post


    What does that even mean? There's a loophole in the Bible, where men sleeping with men is offensive to God unless their love for the guy was real? Sounds like the message is so simple you can add just about anything you have to to it.
    Why the failure of clear thinking?

    God has a law about sodomy. Nobody in the bible is reported as being stoned to death for sodomy.
    What does that tell us?
    That nobody got caught?

    Or that deterrence works?
    So, when God had everyone in the city of Sodom killed, what are you claiming his problem with them was then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    Or that deterrence works?
    Well, that can't be true. CHristains are all the time bragging about how their spiritual ancestors were thrown to the lions because they practiced their religion rather than the official one, making all their martyrs poster children for the fact that deterrence does not work.

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    Nobody is put to death in the Bible for blaspheming the Holy Spirit, either. Or for raping a child. Or for committing treason against the state.

    Gathering firewood on Saturday, however . . .

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    Or holding a census (didn't that result in 80,000 deaths?) ...or holding an unauthorized rite in Jehovah's honor (for which Aaron's 2 sons were killed dead, if I remember the tale)...or bitching about the endless diet of manna (God sent snakes to kill the whiners)...man is a homicidal beast at times, but he has nothin' on Biblegod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post


    What does that even mean? There's a loophole in the Bible, where men sleeping with men is offensive to God unless their love for the guy was real? Sounds like the message is so simple you can add just about anything you have to to it.
    Why the failure of clear thinking?

    God has a law about sodomy. Nobody in the bible is reported as being stoned to death for sodomy.
    What does that tell us?
    That nobody got caught?

    Or that deterrence works?
    False dichotomy. Third choice: Or that people were stoned for sodomy but it was not reported in the Bible.

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    Jesus was executed for treason against the state.

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    vacuums provide a large playground to toss stuff around in...

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    Why the failure of clear thinking?

    God has a law about sodomy. Nobody in the bible is reported as being stoned to death for sodomy.
    What does that tell us?
    That nobody got caught?

    Or that deterrence works?
    False dichotomy. Third choice: Or that people were stoned for sodomy but it was not reported in the Bible.
    Forth choice: Most people thought the rules were mostly bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
    "So, when God had everyone in the city of Sodom killed, what are you claiming his problem with them was then?"
    We all know why Sodom was destroyed.
    And God's punishment of sin is the very deterrent effect to which I'm referring.

    Now, if you want to assert that the only Sodomites who were 'stoned' to death in the bible are those who were living in Sodom, I think you're quibbling, but that still doesn't invalidate Learner's quite correct observation that we don't see punishments arising from Leviticus 18:22 etc. being enacted anywhere in the bible.

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