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    Exclusive: Trump never raised Russia's Taliban bounties with Putin - Axios

    And he's had 8 conversations with him since the intel was given to him. He talks with Putin more than with Barron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blastula View Post
    Exclusive: Trump never raised Russia's Taliban bounties with Putin - Axios

    And he's had 8 conversations with him since the intel was given to him. He talks with Putin more than with Barron.

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    There is no intel and even if there was it would have been stupid to reveal it to Putin.

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    Reveal what's in the news already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blastula View Post
    Reveal what's in the news already?
    Well, in that case Putin already knows it, no need to inform him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blastula View Post
    Reveal what's in the news already?
    Well, in that case Putin already knows it, no need to inform him.
    It's not a matter of informing him. It's a matter of pressuring him to stop. By not bringing the matter up or expressing any concern over the bounties that both men know about, Trump is essentially letting Putin know that he can keep doing it. But Trump is essentially Putin's Poison Pill President, so Putin knows that he holds all the leverage with Trump, who needs all the help he can get from his patron in the upcoming election. This is what has people most upset about here. And, if Trump is not re-elected, Putin should know that there will be consequences starting in 2021. He has had 4 years to take his revenge out on the US. Now he needs to realize that what goes around comes around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blastula View Post
    Reveal what's in the news already?
    Well, in that case Putin already knows it, no need to inform him.
    It's not a matter of informing him. It's a matter of pressuring him to stop. By not bringing the matter up or expressing any concern over the bounties that both men know about, Trump is essentially letting Putin know that he can keep doing it. But Trump is essentially Putin's Poison Pill President, so Putin knows that he holds all the leverage with Trump, who needs all the help he can get from his patron in the upcoming election. This is what has people most upset about here. And, if Trump is not re-elected, Putin should know that there will be consequences starting in 2021. He has had 4 years to take his revenge out on the US. Now he needs to realize that what goes around comes around.
    Putin will ask for evidence and also will ask to stop illegal and corrupt sanctions on Gazprom.
    Then he will ask about this video:

    Then he will switch to BLM and COVID-19 response
    Trust me, you don't want this to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post

    It's not a matter of informing him. It's a matter of pressuring him to stop. By not bringing the matter up or expressing any concern over the bounties that both men know about, Trump is essentially letting Putin know that he can keep doing it. But Trump is essentially Putin's Poison Pill President, so Putin knows that he holds all the leverage with Trump, who needs all the help he can get from his patron in the upcoming election. This is what has people most upset about here. And, if Trump is not re-elected, Putin should know that there will be consequences starting in 2021. He has had 4 years to take his revenge out on the US. Now he needs to realize that what goes around comes around.
    Putin will ask for evidence and also will ask to stop illegal and corrupt sanctions on Gazprom.
    Without Trump in office to stroke his cock, the new US administration will not give a shit about Putey's feelings or showing him evidence that he will deny. They will also laugh in his face when he brings up sanctions against his market manipulating gas company.

    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Then he will ask about this video:
    Then they will ask what the fuck the Soviet Union during the Cold War has to do with Russian now. Trust me, you don't want to know the answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Then he will switch to BLM and COVID-19 response
    By all accounts, the COVID-19 response in Russia (or is the new USSR?) is nearly as bad, so that won't get him anywhere. Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Trust me, you don't want this to happen.
    Bring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepTalking View Post

    Without Trump in office to stroke his cock, the new US administration will not give a shit about Putey's feelings or showing him evidence that he will deny. They will also laugh in his face when he brings up sanctions against his market manipulating gas company.
    That would be a news for the EU.
    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Then he will ask about this video:
    Then they will ask what the fuck the Soviet Union during the Cold War has to do with Russian now. Trust me, you don't want to know the answer.
    Russia is a legal successor of USSR, and you have never explained your actions of paying terrorists to kill Russians.
    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Then he will switch to BLM and COVID-19 response
    By all accounts, the COVID-19 response in Russia (or is the new USSR?) is nearly as bad, so that won't get him anywhere. Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand.
    Really?
    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Trust me, you don't want this to happen.
    Bring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    That would be a news for the EU.
    No, that would be news from the EU:
    EU charges Gazprom with market abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KeepTalking
    Then they will ask what the fuck the Soviet Union during the Cold War has to do with Russian now. Trust me, you don't want to know the answer.
    Russia is a legal successor of USSR, and you have never explained your actions of paying terrorists to kill Russians.
    You might want to read up on the Cold War, it was not all balloons and kittens. Also, it is supposed to be over, too bad Putin never got the memo.

    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Then he will switch to BLM and COVID-19 response
    By all accounts, the COVID-19 response in Russia (or is the new USSR?) is nearly as bad, so that won't get him anywhere. Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand.
    Really?
    Really:
    How Russias Coronavirus Crisis Got So Bad
    WHO Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Dashboard - The dark blue countries are those that have had the worst response to the pandemic.

    It does appear that since June, Russia is improving, despite a response that was nearly as poor as the US response. How much of that is due to the control of data from the Russian government is anyone's guess. Now that the White House has control of US data, expect it to improve remarkably as well. I am sure that is one of the things Trump learned from Putin in his monthly 1-on-1's with his boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepTalking View Post
    It does appear that since June, Russia is improving, despite a response that was nearly as poor as the US response. How much of that is due to the control of data from the Russian government is anyone's guess. Now that the White House has control of US data, expect it to improve remarkably as well. I am sure that is one of the things Trump learned from Putin in his monthly 1-on-1's with his boss.
    It's quite apparent that Putin has been dictating the federal US "response". And quite effectively (for his purposes).

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