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    I think people won't understand that no one gives anything to God, this is in when we talk about material things, like money or goods.

    The system of tithes was to the priesthood. Abraham didn't give any ten percent to a neighbor but to a priest who lived in his times.

    Same as well, the Aaronic priesthood received tithes because they didn't work but taught about their god.

    The priest is assumed to teach the doctrines of God, then this is a way God pays the ones who spread out His doctrines.

    When God was in charge not only of the "spiritual side" but also the political and social sides in Israel, the whole thing was a mess. The book of Judges reveal a complete chaos. People then claimed for a human king, and God conceded because the situation was similar to Chicago neighborhoods.

    Kings obeyed the doctrines given by God, so they were just intermediaries, of course, the spiritual side was kept by the Aaronic priesthood.

    But, the kings failed and the whole structure decayed to the point of the Israelite governed by foreign governments but keeping the Aaronic priesthood.

    Eventually, the Aaronic priesthood lost their high place and was scattered after the destruction of the temple.

    Before the destruction of the temple, a new priesthood appeared, with a guy known Jesus by people of the world. But this priesthood started from scratch. The leaders work and the collected money and goods were for be shared by everybody in the assembly.

    From here, after persecution because their beliefs were over, a kind of priesthood took place simulating the Aaronic priesthood.

    The new priesthood had great influence in social and political issues, like the Aaronic had in ancient Israel.

    Again, slowly and surely the current priesthood has lost political and social influence.

    Today, when religion is not a big solid tree bringing shadow, these dudes decided to confront the jurisdiction of the city arguing that the owner of the land in God.

    My... my... these dudes were supposed to be born centuries ago, when the Garden of Eden had Adam as the gardener, now it's too late... in the bible says that Mr. Satan is the owner, so when I pay my taxes Mr. Satan uses the money to buy tons of charcoal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malintent View Post
    for all eternity. It is easy for them to employ an industrial-strength confirmation bias whereby everything positive is the work of a loving god and is evidence of HIS individual love for them, and everything negative is the work of Satan.
    Sometimes the negative is seen in almost the same optimistic light as the positive. Their god just can't lose it seems no matter what is being pereceived by the believer as being chucked in their direction. If it turned out well, just great. If it didn't then pray extra hard (celebrate!) When someone sees everything as a blessing I wonder how their children are being looked after. I guess its the martyr angle. Causes major psychological damage. I've seen it and some believers seem to voluntarily climb into a shell.

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    So now the same people have been ordered to pay their federal taxes too:

    Christian Family Ordered to Pay 2.3 Million Tax Bill

    In their submissions, Mr Beerepoot said Australian taxation law was contrary to the law of "Almighty God".

    "We believe that the constitution affirms the fact that the Commonwealth resides within the jurisdiction of the law of the Almighty God and the law of the Almighty God is the supreme law of this land," he told the court.
    Associate Justice Holt did not agree with this inventive interpretation of the constitution.

    Representing themselves, the pair told the court they had previously paid income tax prior to 2011 but that a deepened spiritual relationship meant they later realised paying tax was "against God's will".
    'Representing themselves' may be a euphemism for 'unable to find a single lawyer who felt they had any case whatsoever'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilby View Post
    'Representing themselves' may be a euphemism for 'unable to find a single lawyer who felt they had any case whatsoever'.
    Usually it stands as a diagnosis, too.

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    The Judge said 'thou shalt not tax' was not in the Bible and ordered the pair to pay more than $1 million each.
    Kinda liked that part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilby View Post
    So now the same people have been ordered to pay their federal taxes too:

    Christian Family Ordered to Pay 2.3 Million Tax Bill

    In their submissions, Mr Beerepoot said Australian taxation law was contrary to the law of "Almighty God".

    "We believe that the constitution affirms the fact that the Commonwealth resides within the jurisdiction of the law of the Almighty God and the law of the Almighty God is the supreme law of this land," he told the court.
    Associate Justice Holt did not agree with this inventive interpretation of the constitution.

    Representing themselves, the pair told the court they had previously paid income tax prior to 2011 but that a deepened spiritual relationship meant they later realised paying tax was "against God's will".
    'Representing themselves' may be a euphemism for 'unable to find a single lawyer who felt they had any case whatsoever'.
    What part of "pay unto Caesar" did they rip out of their copy of the book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilby View Post
    https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/36915384...p-for-auction/

    They refused to pay rates (land tax) on the basis that the land belongs to God; So the local council auctioned off the property to recover the overdue amount. They owed about $3,500; The auction raised about $120,000, for a property with an estimated market value of $300,000. They get to keep the ~$116,500 difference.

    They also refused to pay taxes on their nearby shop and cafe, but were bailed out by an anonymous donor when that was threatened with seizure earlier this year.
    Sure, the land belongs to God but the council manages the services.

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    I'm pretty sure Romans 13 condemns Grover Norquist to hell.

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