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    Harvey Weinstein scandal

    Sexual harassment allegations against Harvey Weinstein continue to mount after his wife announced she was leaving him and his most powerful allies, including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, expressed disgust at his actions. Georgina Chapman, co-founder of the Marchesa luxury brand and the mother of two of Weinstein’s children, said she was ending her 10-year marriage to the disgraced producer.
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    Million women march ? Hell no.

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    The scandal appears to be less about his actions and more about how commonplace it was in accepting them in a hush hush way by the industry. Actors are being slapped down for their alleged verbal disgust and faked surprise.

    But heck, even an Affleck is powerless in a town controlled by the likes of Harvey Weinstein... and not Harvey Fierstein.

    Seems access to a lot of control and money can make people think women will have sex with them. And they are right, whether willingly or not. There is a boatload of money, and an incredible amount of sacrifice that has come up to this moment, when Mr. Frisky Hands (tongue?) has you alone in a room. This guy can make or break you. Some go with it and consider it part of the job, others might allow it and consider it a hazard, and others might spurn it and risk an extremely rich career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    The scandal appears to be less about his actions and more about how commonplace it was in accepting them in a hush hush way by the industry. Actors are being slapped down for their alleged verbal disgust and faked surprise.

    But heck, even an Affleck is powerless in a town controlled by the likes of Harvey Weinstein... and not Harvey Fierstein.

    Seems access to a lot of control and money can make people think women will have sex with them. And they are right, whether willingly or not. There is a boatload of money, and an incredible amount of sacrifice that has come up to this moment, when Mr. Frisky Hands (tongue?) has you alone in a room. This guy can make or break you. Some go with it and consider it part of the job, others might allow it and consider it a hazard, and others might spurn it and risk an extremely rich career.
    Though it's probably less common now... Hollywood has always been a place of this sort of thing, e.g. Men in power taking advantage of pretty young women desperate to be successful actors. Hollywood is famous for the casting couch. Maybe with the Weinstein and Cosby scandals, these types of men will now be strongly discouraged from doing this sort of disgusting shit.

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    Good to know his powerful friends stood by him through the common knowledge and public humor of it all.
    What a bunch of warm wonderful human beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    The scandal appears to be less about his actions and more about how commonplace it was in accepting them in a hush hush way by the industry. Actors are being slapped down for their alleged verbal disgust and faked surprise.

    But heck, even an Affleck is powerless in a town controlled by the likes of Harvey Weinstein... and not Harvey Fierstein.

    Seems access to a lot of control and money can make people think women will have sex with them. And they are right, whether willingly or not. There is a boatload of money, and an incredible amount of sacrifice that has come up to this moment, when Mr. Frisky Hands (tongue?) has you alone in a room. This guy can make or break you. Some go with it and consider it part of the job, others might allow it and consider it a hazard, and others might spurn it and risk an extremely rich career.
    One of the less appealing aspect of getting older, for a man, is the realization that the hot chicks no longer find one as interesting as they once did. This also coincides with a gradual cooling of the hormonal fires which once made the hot chicks so interesting. Circle of life and all that stuff. That's the way it works for most men.

    Who is to say what the source of the problem is, but some men never learn to accept or deal with their diminishing hotness. In ordinary circumstances, the worst of it is a man who embarrasses his friends and family chasing women who have no interest.

    When the aging process is paired with increasing wealth and power, it's like Fitzgerald's rich people, "careless people, ... they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money." The wealth gives a man access to hot chicks beyond his natural hotness.

    Unfortunately, unless the deal is negotiated in advance, having a lot of money does not guarantee any particular woman wants to have sex with him. Misunderstandings ensue, and when he breaks something, his wealth gets him out of trouble.

    This is how we end up with Cosbys and Weinsteins. They aren't going to stop this kind of behavior until it runs up a bill they can't pay. No amount of money can buy back one's public reputation, but even then, as long he's spending only his own money, it's just a gossip item and little more.

    If the money comes out of someone else's pockets, and they happen to be shareholders, it's a big deal. Jim Bakker(of Tammy Faye and Jim Bakker) learned that one the hard way. The Worldwide Church of God paid the hush money for his indiscretions with church secretary Jessica Hahn. To be fair to Bakker, he had no money of his own. He and Tammy actually worked for pauper's wages, while the Church absorbed the greatest part of their lavish living expenses. The Bakkers owned almost nothing, and when the Church fired them, they were broke and homeless, and soon indicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzeage View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    The scandal appears to be less about his actions and more about how commonplace it was in accepting them in a hush hush way by the industry. Actors are being slapped down for their alleged verbal disgust and faked surprise.

    But heck, even an Affleck is powerless in a town controlled by the likes of Harvey Weinstein... and not Harvey Fierstein.

    Seems access to a lot of control and money can make people think women will have sex with them. And they are right, whether willingly or not. There is a boatload of money, and an incredible amount of sacrifice that has come up to this moment, when Mr. Frisky Hands (tongue?) has you alone in a room. This guy can make or break you. Some go with it and consider it part of the job, others might allow it and consider it a hazard, and others might spurn it and risk an extremely rich career.
    One of the less appealing aspect of getting older, for a man, is the realization that the hot chicks no longer find one as interesting as they once did. This also coincides with a gradual cooling of the hormonal fires which once made the hot chicks so interesting. Circle of life and all that stuff. That's the way it works for most men.

    Who is to say what the source of the problem is, but some men never learn to accept or deal with their diminishing hotness. In ordinary circumstances, the worst of it is a man who embarrasses his friends and family chasing women who have no interest.
    I doubt Harvey Weinstein was every able to pique the interest of hot chicks. For most old rich men, I think they probably solve this by simply paying for the attention of hot chicks, which Weinstein was perfectly capable of.

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    Before any brain-damaged goofballs try to pull the old "both sides are just as bad" tu quoque fallacy, let's not forget that Weinstein was not elected president after we found this out about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underseer View Post
    Before any brain-damaged goofballs try to pull the old "both sides are just as bad" tu quoque fallacy, let's not forget that Weinstein was not elected president after we found this out about him.
    This challenge was issued on another forum, accusing liberal of hypocrisy for not condemning Weinstein. This was my response"

    I issued a blanket condemnation of pussy grabbers over a year ago, so when some rich fuck is exposed as a pussy grabber, we can all assume his name has been added to the list.

    It's sort of like how I don't differentiate between good Nazis and bad Nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underseer View Post
    Before any brain-damaged goofballs try to pull the old "both sides are just as bad" tu quoque fallacy, let's not forget that Weinstein was not elected president after we found this out about him.
    Why the fuckfuckflying fuck would there be two sides to this scandal? The guy is scum who doesn't understand the purpose of a pot plant, how is this an issue with many sides?

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    Apparently, there are a lot of very sick people in our midst.

    I for one would not even be able to get an erection if I was in any way shape or form coercing a woman into doing anything with me. Mr Happy would simply not respond.

    Apparently, there are a lot of men who are not much more than animals, who can enjoy sexual interaction with someone they have intimidated into consent, or threatened, or coerced in some other way - some godawful blackmail, threats to family members, or worse.

    These "men" are animals, no more, no less. In fact, a dog or cat is of far greater value than such a "person".

    Take a look at legal porn: It is rife with male brutes who apparently have ZERO conscience when it comes to getting their rocks off. They can stick it anywhere, anyhow, in the most awful ways, and actually get off. These men are no better than animals. In fact, they are worse than animals. Because they are getting fucking PAID to do this shit.

    I have over 1500 friends on Facebook. Quite a few of them are women who've been in the recent porn industry. The way things are going, more and more women will be abused, mentally fucked up, their lives in shambles, because of how EASY it is to produce porn, how HUGE the market is, and how enormous the glut of eighteen year old girls from all over the world who see porn as an easy way to make a bunch of money, so they can be able to move on to real work, real lives. But in many cases, these porn producers are SO fucking money-hungry, and the male performers SO lacking in anything like normal empathy and/or ethics, that these girls are exploited, ruined (anal sex is the norm rather than the exception - if you won't do anal, you won't get anywhere in today's porn), and totally fucked up psychologically, physically, and mentally.

    I'm a man, but I also know that a lot of men are animals. They are less than animals.

    Keep it in your fucking pants, or learn how to rub one out, you stupid, knuckle-dragging bastards.

    /rant
    If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to a library. - Frank Zappa

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