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    http://variety.com/2018/film/news/kr...in-1202712507/

    Kristen Wiig in talks to play villain in Wonder Woman sequel.

    I liked Kristen Wiig in The Martian and in Ghostbusters, but this illustrates why it's a bad idea that the movies keep killing off classic characters. Wonder Woman is an icon in comic books, but the truth is her rogues' gallery kind of sucks. Ares is the only villain most people remember.

    I can remember that Cheetah is one of her other villains, but I can't honestly tell you anything about that villains background, her skills, or her powers. In fact I can't tell you much of anything except for her name and the fact that she looks like something furry porn fans would masturbate to.

    I'll have to place faith in Patty Jenkins since I liked the first Wonder Woman movie so much.

    But dang. Kristen Wiig as Cheetah? I don't even know if that's good or bad.

    If the sequel is set in WW2, then having Ares return again would have been perfect.

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    Ya, I really don't see Kristen Wiig pulling off a viable supervillain. Sure, out of the box casting choices can work out, like when they inexplicably chose that guy who played the gay cowboy to be the new Joker, but this is the team which chose Jesse Eisenberg to be Lex Luthor, so maybe they should try being more conservative for a bit.

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    It may be that you are not quite in tune with the current Wonder Woman comics. Cheetah has been featured heavily in WW in the Rebirth continuity. She is a very conflicted villain, who has been a friend and ally to Wonder Woman at points in their relationship, but ultimately feels betrayed by Wonder Woman. This could make for a very compelling story, if done right. That said, as much as I like Kirsten Wiig as a comedian, I am not sure how she would fit into this role. It doesn't seem like it is a done deal, however, so we will just have to wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Ya, I really don't see Kristen Wiig pulling off a viable supervillain. Sure, out of the box casting choices can work out, like when they inexplicably chose that guy who played the gay cowboy to be the new Joker, but this is the team which chose Jesse Eisenberg to be Lex Luthor, so maybe they should try being more conservative for a bit.
    I thought Eisenberg did a great job of playing Heath Ledger playing The Joker playing Lex Luthor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepTalking View Post
    It may be that you are not quite in tune with the current Wonder Woman comics. Cheetah has been featured heavily in WW in the Rebirth continuity. She is a very conflicted villain, who has been a friend and ally to Wonder Woman at points in their relationship, but ultimately feels betrayed by Wonder Woman. This could make for a very compelling story, if done right. That said, as much as I like Kirsten Wiig as a comedian, I am not sure how she would fit into this role. It doesn't seem like it is a done deal, however, so we will just have to wait and see.
    Yeah, after I posted this, I saw a YouTube video explaining the current incarnation of Cheetah, and I agree that the newest version sounds interesting. More importantly, she has a complicated Spider-Man-like relationship with this villain.

    I still suspect that most of the public is like me. Most of us can only name one Wonder Woman villain: Ares, and if we can name Cheetah, it's only because she made a brief appearance in the Justice League cartoon and we can't really tell you much of anything about Cheetah.

    Most DC heroes have a large rogues' gallery of memorable villains. I don't think any Marvel hero has a rogues' gallery as large and memorable as Batman has. But by the same token, most people have trouble remembering much of Wonder Woman's rogues' gallery. It is for this reason that I think it was a mistake to kill off her most memorable villain.

    PS — My guess about World War 2 was waaaaaaay off. It turns out Wonder Woman is going to fight Cheetah in the 1980s. Part of me looks forward to seeing Kristen Wiig with big 80s hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Ya, I really don't see Kristen Wiig pulling off a viable supervillain. Sure, out of the box casting choices can work out, like when they inexplicably chose that guy who played the gay cowboy to be the new Joker, but this is the team which chose Jesse Eisenberg to be Lex Luthor, so maybe they should try being more conservative for a bit.
    Michael Keaton.

    Out of the box casting can very much work, particularly since comedians are often capable of more depth and sympathy than people expect. That doesn't necessarily mean every odd casting choice is going to work out though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Ya, I really don't see Kristen Wiig pulling off a viable supervillain. Sure, out of the box casting choices can work out, like when they inexplicably chose that guy who played the gay cowboy to be the new Joker, but this is the team which chose Jesse Eisenberg to be Lex Luthor, so maybe they should try being more conservative for a bit.
    I thought Eisenberg did a great job of playing Heath Ledger playing The Joker playing Lex Luthor.
    I thought it was more like Eisenberg playing a Silicon Valley tycoon playing Lex Luthor, but then I'm probably the only one who kind of liked his version of Luthor jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underseer View Post
    Most DC heroes have a large rogues' gallery of memorable villains. I don't think any Marvel hero has a rogues' gallery as large and memorable as Batman has.
    Spider-Man has the best rogues gallery for Marvel. I think a number of other heroes have a decent list, but they get overshadowed by a few big names on them. Like the Fantastic Four’s list is dominated by Doom and Galactus.

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    There's no reason to have Wonder Woman specific villains from comics. I'd rather see them take a second-tier villain from Batman or Flash, or Superman for that matter, than shoehorn Cheetah into it. The catty woman villain trope is so behind the times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjay View Post
    There's no reason to have Wonder Woman specific villains from comics. I'd rather see them take a second-tier villain from Batman or Flash, or Superman for that matter, than shoehorn Cheetah into it. The catty woman villain trope is so behind the times.
    Nothing about Cheetah could be described as "catty". She's incredibly vicious and a serious challenge to Diana. And given that she's a serious character I really couldn't see Wiig as a good choice to play her, but who knows ... she might be awesome in the part.

    Wonder Woman really doesn't have as much of a recognizable rogue's gallery as The Flash or Batman. Once they've used up Ares and Cheetah that's pretty much it for any villain casual viewers might have even a passing knowledge of so I do agree with the idea of taking villains from other DC stories and adapting them for WW movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodchild View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjay View Post
    There's no reason to have Wonder Woman specific villains from comics. I'd rather see them take a second-tier villain from Batman or Flash, or Superman for that matter, than shoehorn Cheetah into it. The catty woman villain trope is so behind the times.
    Nothing about Cheetah could be described as "catty". She's incredibly vicious and a serious challenge to Diana. And given that she's a serious character I really couldn't see Wiig as a good choice to play her, but who knows ... she might be awesome in the part.

    Wonder Woman really doesn't have as much of a recognizable rogue's gallery as The Flash or Batman. Once they've used up Ares and Cheetah that's pretty much it for any villain casual viewers might have even a passing knowledge of so I do agree with the idea of taking villains from other DC stories and adapting them for WW movies.
    It would've been better to, you know, not kill Ares. Especially since he can engineer disasters that might challenge the entire Justice League. Oh well, there's always the Furies from Apokolips, I guess. Apokolips is an entire planet full of evil gods, isn't it?

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