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    Shroud of Turin Is a Fake, Bloodstains Suggest

    As if any rational person didn't already know....the Turin tea-towel is a fake....

    The Shroud of Turin is said by some to be the burial cloth of Jesus and by others a medieval forgery. Now, a new study using modern forensic techniques suggests the bloodstains on the shroud are completely unrealistic, supporting arguments that it is a fake.
    The full article is on LiveScience...
    “Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it.” Terry Pratchett

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    Anyone who cared, but wasn't planning to reject this finding regardless of the facts, already knew.

    Anyone who was, still will. Because facts don't have any impact on faith.

    This research is as useful as proving that the Earth isn't flat, or that the Moon isn't made of cheese.

    I have no problem with people repeating past research; But how many times do you need to prove something a fake before its being a fake stops being newsworthy?

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    Yeah....This is not 'news'.

    So, I guess this is 'olds'?

    SOS, warmed over.

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    Still, it was quite clever of them to compare how blood would actually have flowed from a human body subjected to crucifixion and being stabbed with a spear, and how the bloodstains appear on the Shroud. Never heard of that method being applied before. Thumbs up to those researchers.

    Let's see. Just off the top of my head, I know that the Shroud is proven fake by
    -carbon dating
    -pollen trapped in the weave
    -historical testimony, from churchmen of the day
    -impossible proportions of the body depicted
    -front and back images don't match up exactly
    No doubt there are other evidences of fraud that I'm not recalling.

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    Long ago, Joe Nickell wrote a book, "Inquest On The Shroud Of Turin" that most thoroughly demolished any possible claim that it might be real. No matter how many times it is debunked, some people will reject the facts. Nickell's book is still available used on Amazon it looks like.
    Cheerful Charlie

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    Holy relics were HUGE money-spinners in the Middle Ages in Europe; They made a lot of churchmen and their churches very, very wealthy.

    Combine the huge value of such relics with a credulous populace who lacked the forensic abilities to detect frauds and forgeries, and it is unsurprising that most relics turn out to date from no earlier than the 11th, and more commonly around the 14th, centuries.

    These objects were almost universally created closer to our time than to the time of Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jobar View Post
    Still, it was quite clever of them to compare how blood would actually have flowed from a human body subjected to crucifixion and being stabbed with a spear, and how the bloodstains appear on the Shroud. Never heard of that method being applied before. Thumbs up to those researchers.

    Let's see. Just off the top of my head, I know that the Shroud is proven fake by
    -carbon dating
    -pollen trapped in the weave
    -historical testimony, from churchmen of the day
    -impossible proportions of the body depicted
    -front and back images don't match up exactly
    No doubt there are other evidences of fraud that I'm not recalling.
    God is testing you. He wishes for you to realize that this is the one true shroud, even though there have been many claims to such over the centuries.

    This is how you know the shroud is a Fake
    Last edited by T.G.G. Moogly; 07-19-2018 at 05:44 AM.

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    A close reading of John 19-20 would show that the Shroud of Turin is a fake.
    NOTE: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerful Charlie View Post
    Long ago, Joe Nickell wrote a book, "Inquest On The Shroud Of Turin" that most thoroughly demolished any possible claim that it might be real. No matter how many times it is debunked, some people will reject the facts. Nickell's book is still available used on Amazon it looks like.
    I read it when it was new.

    I find it a bit disgusting how 'even-handed' the Wiki article on the Turin Shroud is, and how many studies from plainly biased researchers are quoted.

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    Not to mention that no culture buries their dead with the corpse's hands covering its genitals.

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