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    Quote Originally Posted by Underseer View Post
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    Evolution is a fact. The theory was proven right time and time again.
    So who won the $250,000 ?
    So something is only true in science if someone wins $250,000?

    I don't think you understand how science works. You should consider going back to elementary school.
    Yeah, I always thought it was weird how those Nobel Foundation folks in Sweden give millions of dollars in prize money for scientific achievement.

    Kent Hovind. Alfred Nobel.
    Why, the names side by side just roll off the tongue.

    Anyway, it's a bummer nobody was able to prove evolution is true and claim the cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Underseer View Post

    So something is only true in science if someone wins $250,000?

    I don't think you understand how science works. You should consider going back to elementary school.
    Yeah, I always thought it was weird how those Nobel Foundation folks in Sweden give millions of dollars in prize money for scientific achievement.

    Kent Hovind. Alfred Nobel.
    Why, the names side by side just roll off the tongue.

    Anyway, it's a bummer nobody was able to prove evolution is true and claim the cash.
    Eh. The evolution is proved to be true and the cash was claimed.
    The bummer was Hovind that didnt pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Underseer View Post

    So something is only true in science if someone wins $250,000?

    I don't think you understand how science works. You should consider going back to elementary school.
    Yeah, I always thought it was weird how those Nobel Foundation folks in Sweden give millions of dollars in prize money for scientific achievement.
    Yes, it is the achievement that is premiered. Not the fact.

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    If evolution was proved to be true, surely the "premier" prize was there for the taking.
    Empirical evidence is so totally indisputable. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    If evolution was proved to be true, surely the prize was there for the taking.
    Empirical evidence is so totally indisputable. Right?
    Indisputal evidens, yes: Evidens of Christians lying for christ...

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    LOL
    Don't you mean evidence that nobody was up to the challenge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    LOL
    Don't you mean evidence that nobody was up to the challenge?
    That is your comeback? Yeez...
    No, i did not. Now go and play with your imaginary friend.

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    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
    Saying that "nothing is ever proven" in science is a concession to doubters that is entirely pedantic and unnecessary.
    I don't see it as a 'concession'. I see it as a strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juma View Post
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    LOL
    Don't you mean evidence that nobody was up to the challenge?
    That is your comeback? Yeez...
    No, i did not. Now go and play with your imaginary friend.
    No, he's right. NO one was up to the challenge, and that's how Hovind designed it. It's a challenge that's impossible to meet, to allow him to pretend to a position of superiority in the debate, not to find the truth.

    Some of the elements of the challenge require proving things that are NOT part of the theory of evolution. Plus unscientific statements, like having to prove that certain theories were THE ONLY POSSIBLE way things happened. That's not what science claims about evolution.

    And even if it were possible, he maintained complete control over the judges who would be used to determine that the challenge had been met. If such a group existed, there was no way to validate their credentials or their ability o understand the the material they were judging. And, no way to be sure that whatever they said was what that lying idiot Hovind actually reported.

    It was always a con.

    But it was a con that at least offered the conclusion Lion prefers, so of course he would need no further details.

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    Wait.
    If Kent Hovind was putting up a challenge for people to prove something about evolution which Hovind thinks ISNT true, and the people he is challenging say...
    "yes it's unproven but that's not a part of evolution"
    ...then aren't they conceding Hovind's point?

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