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    For Christians:If god exists why must you prove it?

    If you believe god exists and have faith in an afterlife, why must you prove it and why get hostile to those who reject it?

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    I never saw any scripture telling me to prove God exists. In fact there's a fair bit telling me NOT to put God to the proof.

    As for hostility towards those who reject God, nope. Christians who aren't welcomed are invoked to turn and leave and shake the dust off their sandals.

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    In other words, you are supposed to just believe everything that you read in a book that was written thousands of years ago without even questioning if it makes any sense, but when there is overwhelming evidence for things like evolution or human made climate change, for example, it's okay to reject it? Got it. On the other hand, if medical science finds a cure or successful treatment for a disease that a Christian suffers from, it's okay to believe that? Strange. Very strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    I never saw any scripture telling me to prove God exists. In fact there's a fair bit telling me NOT to put God to the proof.

    As for hostility towards those who reject God, nope. Christians who aren't welcomed are invoked to turn and leave and shake the dust off their sandals.
    You are doing the usual Christian two step. Find a passage and make it fit something unrelated as an answer.

    Aren't they commanded to give up possesions and follow Jesus?

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    When I was an Evangelical, apologetics was just one more tool in the toolbox used to win souls for Christ. Some folks used compassion and good works, some preached and taught, others argued for the faith. No one method will convert everyone, so all methods were encouraged according to one's own temperament and talents.

    (Side note: Why is the past tense of preach 'preached', but the past tense of teach isn't 'teached'?)

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    And yes, there's Biblical Support for apologetics. Acts 17 tells of St. Paul reasoning with philosophers and other religious teachers in Athens, and some of them converted. So if something is good enough for St. Paul, it's good enough for anyone else, no?

    And if anyone values Thomas Aquinas, C. S. Lewis, or Lee Strobel, then they'll value apologetics and even engage in it themselves. Particularly if there are lucrative book deals or popular speaking engagements to be had.

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    Aquinas was the pope
    s theological hit man. He went out and debated.

    I believe CS Lewis was led to a conversion by Tolkien, or maybe the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    I never saw any scripture telling me to prove God exists. In fact there's a fair bit telling me NOT to put God to the proof.
    That’s so weird. How do you avoid having faith in falsehoods, then? Faith in false gods?
    As for hostility towards those who reject God, nope. Christians who aren't welcomed are invoked to turn and leave and shake the dust off their sandals.
    Why does it take them so fucking long to do it?

    Even metaphorically, why does it take so long for christians to stop blathering about their religion when you’re their friend and make it clear you’re atheist and you don’t welcome it?

    Wouldn’t it be great if christians cared about this verse, asked if you want to hear and then shut up about it when you say no?

    Wouldn’t if be great if they took their stupid anti-birth control evangelism and left town? No, instead they pound you over the head with it and strip you of access to medical care.

    Wouldn’t it be great if christians took the fact that 80% of the country disagrees with their barbaric treatment of gays and they “shook the dust” and stopped trying to impose their beliefs by force?

    Wouldn’t it be great if Christians stopped arguing and going to court for power to force their religion on unwilling people?

    So what’s the reason? Why don’t christians think this part of the bible is true? When are they going to shake the dust, sell everything they own and actually follow Jesus’ teachings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    If you believe god exists and have faith in an afterlife, why must you prove it and why get hostile to those who reject it?
    The existence of those who do not share the faith puts the faith to question. Other beliefs or points of view imply other possibilities, that one's article of faith may not be true, posing a threat to the faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    If you believe god exists and have faith in an afterlife, why must you prove it and why get hostile to those who reject it?
    Isn't a hostile Christian an oxymoron?

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