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    Help me find it: Exodus with actual math

    Years ago I read an aricle that took the numbers presented in the bible for years and populations and journeys and the exodus and they did the actual math saying, “okay, if the Jews were in egypt this long, and they started witth this group, and they left at this time with this many people, hee’s how many kids each woman had to have. And if they had tis many, here’s how long a lne itt would have been and how much food they’d have nneeded in the desert.

    It was a fun read and I can’t seem to ressurect it. Help a pal out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhea View Post
    Years ago I read an aricle that took the numbers presented in the bible for years and populations and journeys and the exodus and they did the actual math saying, “okay, if the Jews were in egypt this long, and they started witth this group, and they left at this time with this many people, hee’s how many kids each woman had to have. And if they had tis many, here’s how long a lne itt would have been and how much food they’d have nneeded in the desert.

    It was a fun read and I can’t seem to ressurect it. Help a pal out?

    Robert Ingersoll? Some Mistakes of Moses if I recall this correctly. It has been many years since I read him.

    Some Mistakes Of Moses - Gutenberg Project
    We must not forget that during all these years there has been pouring
    into our country a vast stream of emigration, and that this, taken
    in connection with the fact that our country is productive beyond all
    others, gave us only four doubles in one hundred years. Admitting that
    the Hebrews increased as rapidly without emigration as we, in this
    country, have with it, we will give to them four doubles each century,
    commencing with seventy people, and they would have, at the end of
    two hundred years, a population of seventeen thousand nine hundred and
    twenty. Giving them another double for the odd fifteen years and there
    would be, provided no deaths had occurred, thirty-five thousand eight
    hundred and forty people. And yet we are told that instead of having
    this number, they had increased to such an extent that they had six
    hundred thousand men of war: that is to say, a population of more than
    three millions!
    Cheerful Charlie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhea View Post
    Years ago I read an aricle that took the numbers presented in the bible for years and populations and journeys and the exodus and they did the actual math saying, “okay, if the Jews were in egypt this long, and they started witth this group, and they left at this time with this many people, hee’s how many kids each woman had to have. And if they had tis many, here’s how long a lne itt would have been and how much food they’d have nneeded in the desert.

    It was a fun read and I can’t seem to ressurect it. Help a pal out?
    I can't help you with the article, but it appears your keys are sticking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhea View Post
    Years ago I read an aricle that took the numbers presented in the bible for years and populations and journeys and the exodus and they did the actual math saying, “okay, if the Jews were in egypt this long, and they started witth this group, and they left at this time with this many people, hee’s how many kids each woman had to have. And if they had tis many, here’s how long a lne itt would have been and how much food they’d have nneeded in the desert.

    It was a fun read and I can’t seem to ressurect it. Help a pal out?

    Do you mean this one?

    http://www.tektonics.org/af/exoduslogistics.php

    Even if the Exodus is a literal event (as seems more than a tad unlikely given the utter lack of corroborating evidence, but who knows, I suppose) I tend to feel that Biblical estimates of number are not to be trusted. We often see the same event described with different numbers attached; The Book of Chronicles and the Book of Kings are famous for throwing in some extra zeroes between them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politesse View Post
    Not that one - his math is terrible. Lots of handwaving and he lets everyne have their kids twice.


    Even if the Exodus is a literal event (as seems more than a tad unlikely given the utter lack of corroborating evidence, but who knows, I suppose) I tend to feel that Biblical estimates of number are not to be trusted. We often see the same event described with different numbers attached; The Book of Chronicles and the Book of Kings are famous for throwing in some extra zeroes between them.
    True, the bible lies a lot. But it can be fun to stipulate the lie and see where it leads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WAB View Post

    I can't help you with the article, but it appears your keys are sticking?


    Just bad typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by WAB View Post

    I can't help you with the article, but it appears your keys are sticking?


    Just bad typing.
    Sticky fingers then?
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    Just a note: If you compare different translations of the Old Testament, you'll find a lot of vague numbers. Three hundred cattle might be three thousand cattle, and so on. Apparently, Hebrew numerals can be ambiguous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzeage View Post
    Just a note: If you compare different translations of the Old Testament, you'll find a lot of vague numbers. Three hundred cattle might be three thousand cattle, and so on. Apparently, Hebrew numerals can be ambiguous.
    It's not just the Hebrew numerals that can do this. An example from coverage of the flooding due to Cyclone Yasi back in 2011:

    More than 30,000 pigs have been floating down the Dawson River since last weekend...
    The Morning Bulletin, Rockhampton, 6th January, 2011

    Correction

    What Baralaba piggery-owner Sid Everingham actually said was "30 sows and pigs", not "30,000 pigs"
    The Morning Bulletin, Rockhampton, 7th January, 2011

    https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/tr...1_bulletin.pdf

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    If I was looking for an article of that type would start with Prof. Israel Finkelstein. He was really popular around the atheosphere "years ago".
    And that was his schtick so-to-speak...debunking the Exodus.

    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4777188

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