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    Jesus was telling his followers to leave homes and jobs and await the coming end of the world which was to be soon. Sitting around not worrying about food, drink or clothing made sense if one expected the end of this mortal world, soon, soon, soon. And a new kingdom of heaven to come into existence. Where those who gave all that stuff up would be rewarded 100 fold. Which did not happen as prophecized. Abandoning all to wait for the coming end is far different than being a good economic plan for the next 2000 years. But that was not what this was all about. It makes me laugh to see religious kook writing books about how to adopt Jesus business practices to running a business or corporation. Which have been common enough over the 30 years i have been kook watching.

    Mark 10
    29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
    30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
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    Great job Bernie!

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    Elizabeth Warren on Twitter: "I've had it with billionaires who think the rules don't apply to them. https://t.co/CtpZQ4bouh" / Twitter
    I've had it with billionaires who think the rules don't apply to them. I've had it with billionaires who think their money buys them something special. So, you know, they can call women "fat broads" and "horseface lesbians" and then just, when somebody complains, throw a little money on it and then put a gag in the woman's mouth. That's not right and that's not going to be our candidate for president of the United States of America.

    I'll tell you another part of accountability. It's not enough to decide in the hours before you declare for president that maybe stop-and-frisk was a bad idea. I'm sorry. They knew exactly what communities they were targeting, what human beings they were targeting, and what color those human beings were. And in case they missed it on day one, when people got hurt, and told their stories. Crickets right up until he realized, "Gee, I was planning to buy a presidency and what could go wrong?" He figured he had the woman all gagged so they couldn't say anything -- couldn't say anything about harassment. But boy, what to do about all those Latinos and African Americans that got slammed over the hoods, that got slammed against the walls, that got humiliated, that were stopped repeatedly for doing what? Walking while Black? Uh, no. No. So he figures, "What does it take for a billionaire?" This is like a dang big deal. Not good enough. Not good enough.

    I get it. I am not a woman of color. I have the privilege of never having been slammed into the wall by a police officer. I listen and I say, "When I am president of the United States, that is not going to happen to human beings in this country." Because we're in this fight together. The Democrats are getting down to the short strokes on how we're going to pick a nominee. Now we all know Mayor Bloomberg's view on this -- everyone else should drop out and he'll stay. He said Bernie could stay and he'll take out Bernie, but other than that, just the two of them, and the rest of us should just go away.

    I'M NOT READY TO GO AWAY.

    You really want to say, "Hey, Mayor Bloomberg, give Mitch McConnell a call and see how "tell him that woman to sit down and shut up" worked for him.

    (Persist! Persist! Persist!)

    All I can say is: We're just getting started. Understand this about Michael Bloomberg. He believes that because he's a billionaire, and this is really scary because if this is true, then either you have to be a billionaire or you have to spend 70% of your time sucking up to billionaires. So to me, what this election is all about is how we -- we take back the power -- how we, we take back our democracy -- we, we take back our country -- and we build an America that doesn't just work for a handful at the top. We build an America that works for everyone. LET'S DREAM BIG! FIGHT HARD! AND WIN!
    Good slam on Mike Bloomberg. Even if what he did was to buy some women's silence about his misdeeds rather than put literal gags in their mouths.

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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Solo hay un camino: juntos.
    Gracias, Nevada. https://t.co/chm5BBQrL2" / Twitter

    There is only one way: together.
    Thanks, Nevada.

    With her endorsement of Bernie Sanders in Spanish.

    Bernie Sanders leads Latino, Hispanic voters in Nevada: Entrance polls
    In entrance polls, he was trouncing other candidates with Latino and Hispanic caucus-goers in Nevada, according to NBC News entrance polling results that showed him with 53% of the vote with that demographic in the seven-person race.

    The entrance polls showed former Vice President Joe Biden at 16% of the Latino and Hispanic vote, former South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 9%, billionaire activist Tom Steyer with 8% and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren with 7%.
    Nevada is about 30% Hispanic, 10% black, and 10% Asian / Pacific Islander.

    Bernie Sanders' Nevada win leaves Democrats worried about November
    “No campaign has a grassroots movement like we do, which is another reason why we’re going to win this election," Sanders said after he ran away with the caucuses.

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    More moderate candidates were already fighting about who should step aside to allow one person to try to consolidate the vote against him.
    They seem like they're running scared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly_Penguin View Post
    Great job Bernie!
    Jolly: this must be a bad day for you. You can't condemn the knuckedragging Americans today as much!

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    The way I see it is that there are so many moderate progressives who are up against Bernie and that means that the moderate progressive lane is very divided, making it easy for the most progressive candidate to win. Since none of the others are showing any signs of leaving the race after Nevada, I fully expect Sanders to continue to win delegates.

    Can he beat Trump? I'm still extremely skeptical of that, but sometimes I think since nobody seemed to think that Trump could become president, I suppose it may be possible to elect Sanders. I hope he has enough sense to choose a much younger, more pragmatic person to run as his VP.

    But, those who support Sanders the most, need to really work hard to convince other less progressive voters to vote for him. I'm not a Sanders supporter but I keep telling my neighbor, a life long Democrat who despises Sanders, that she MUST vote for him if he is the nominee. She told me yesterday that she would need to take two Valium and then try not to think about it too much about it if she has to vote for Sanders. I told her not to look at the names, but just go Dem, right down the line.

    And, the two of us have convinced her poor middle aged friend who has never voted in her entire life to register this week. She did it. So, if two old ladies who don't like Sanders are working to get more disenfranchised people in Georgia to vote blue no matter who, I hope you younger, more energetic Dems will do a lot more than us.

    I'm actually much more concerned about the House and the Senate than I am the presidential race. There are a lot of people who believe that Sanders will cause the Dems to lose both. I have no idea if that is true. It's really too early to make such a prediction, but I am planning on telling everyone I know to vote in the Georgia Democratic primary and try to choose the Senate candidate who seems to have the best chance of defeating the Republican candidate. My district is very gerrymandered and very conservative so there is no chance that my district will be won by a Democrat, if one even runs in my district. Most of the time, the Republican runs unopposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southernhybrid View Post
    My district is very gerrymandered and very conservative so there is no chance that my district will be won by a Democrat, if one even runs in my district. Most of the time, the Republican runs unopposed.
    Isn't "very gerrymandered and very conservative" kind of an oxymoron? I though the idea was to gerrymander every district so that most of them have a slightly Republican majority, and a few of them contain all the Democrats.
    Great job getting an elderly person to resign herself to the cold hard facts of the matter! If one out of ten Democrats could do that, the election would be a slam dunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elixir View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by southernhybrid View Post
    My district is very gerrymandered and very conservative so there is no chance that my district will be won by a Democrat, if one even runs in my district. Most of the time, the Republican runs unopposed.
    Isn't "very gerrymandered and very conservative" kind of an oxymoron? I though the idea was to gerrymander every district so that most of them have a slightly Republican majority, and a few of them contain all the Democrats.
    Great job getting an elderly person to resign herself to the cold hard facts of the matter! If one out of ten Democrats could do that, the election would be a slam dunk.
    The problem is that I live in a black majority town, and while I have quite a few nice black neighbors that moved into my side of town in the last few years, (. Yay!) the town is still fairly divided racially and economically. One side is more middles class/upper class and white, while the other side is mostly poor or lower middle class and black. I know of both poor black and poor white folks who never vote. If my entire town was in the same district, it would likely be Democratic, but instead it's been divided up so that my mostly white side of town, is mixed with some very rural areas that are very white and mostly very conservative.

    Democrats gerrymander as well, but since we've had Republicans in control here since 2004, I think, the Repugs have been the ones doing the most gerrymandering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Bosch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly_Penguin View Post
    Great job Bernie!
    Jolly: this must be a bad day for you. You can't condemn the knuckedragging Americans today as much!
    It's ok. I can still condemn you, Harry.

    I have been hoping for Bernie to win for years. It could be a sign of great progress in the US. An indicator that the people are going to rise and transform the nation into one that puts the people first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    Good slam on Mike Bloomberg. Even if what he did was to buy some women's silence about his misdeeds some joke he told rather than put literal gags in their mouths.
    FIFY

    Luckily, going scorched Earth negative like she did wasn't rewarded by the Nevada voters. And now she is making fun of Bloomberg's height. Not a good look for somebody who until now has said that she was the "unity candidate". Being a unity candidate and trying to destroy your opponents do not go hand in hand.

    4th place in Nevada with no delegates after 3rd and 4th in Iowa and NH do not bode well for Warren's viability. She should drop out. At this rate, she will not even win Massachusetts!

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