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    Climate change was a developing concern at the turn of the 20th century.

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    Opinion | What Exxon Mobil Didn’t Say About Climate Change - The New York Times
    Scrutiny is mounting on the world’s largest publicly traded oil and gas company. On multiple legal fronts the question is being asked: Did Exxon Mobil’s communications about climate change break the law?
    By lying about what they expected to happen from CO2 emissions.

    Prof. Katharine Hayhoe on Twitter: "@ptdnldsn Pat, the next glacial maximum had already been delayed by the development of agriculture and associated deforestation before the dawn of the industrial revolution. If you would like to learn more, I recommend: https://t.co/s76XHmQJPB" / Twitter
    From the Amazon book description:
    Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum: How Humans Took Control of Climate:
    By William F. Ruddiman

    The impact on climate from 200 years of industrial development is an everyday fact of life, but did humankind's active involvement in climate change really begin with the industrial revolution, as commonly believed? Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum has sparked lively scientific debate since it was first published--arguing that humans have actually been changing the climate for some 8,000 years--as a result of the earlier discovery of agriculture.

    The "Ruddiman Hypothesis" will spark intense debate. We learn that the impact of farming on greenhouse-gas levels, thousands of years before the industrial revolution, kept our planet notably warmer than if natural climate cycles had prevailed--quite possibly forestalling a new ice age.

    Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum is the first book to trace the full historical sweep of human interaction with Earth's climate. Ruddiman takes us through three broad stages of human history: when nature was in control; when humans began to take control, discovering agriculture and affecting climate through carbon dioxide and methane emissions; and, finally, the more recent human impact on climate change. Along the way he raises the fascinating possibility that plagues, by depleting human populations, also affected reforestation and thus climate--as suggested by dips in greenhouse gases when major pandemics have occurred. While our massive usage of fossil fuels has certainly contributed to modern climate change, Ruddiman shows that industrial growth is only part of the picture. The book concludes by looking to the future and critiquing the impact of special interest money on the global warming debate. In the afterword, Ruddiman explores the main challenges posed to his hypothesis, and shows how recent investigations and findings ultimately strengthen the book's original claims.

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    Global warming was already a concern in the 1950s


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    Global warming was already a concern in the 1950s


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    Is there anything that cannot be blamed on the climate emergency/crisis/catastrophe/apocalypse/rapture ?

    Hot weather increases the risk of early childbirth, which in turn is linked to worse health and developmental outcomes for children, a major new study has found. The report could have fresh implications for the impact of global heating on human health. Unless action is taken to mitigate the risks, by the end of the century an additional 42,000 babies will be delivered early annually in the US. The study concludes: “Increased exposure to hot weather with climate change is likely to harm infant health.”
    Teh Grauniad

    But never fear, there is always a solution;

    “Electrification and access to air conditioning should be a part of any effort to protect pregnant women and infants in developing countries,” said Allan Barreca, lead researcher with the University of California’s Institute of the Environment and Sustainability. “But developed countries, like the US or England, should be paying developing countries to electrify with renewable sources, like wind or solar, so we avoid producing more greenhouse gas emissions.”
    It really is a religion.

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    If you check my posts here you will see that I am probably the most convinced and shrill about how fucked climate change will be. But this guy has some great points:


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    Consumers have to pay.

    There's no solution to the problem unless we --


    increase gasoline taxes and

    increase electricity bills for energy produced by coal.


    Someone has to tell the crybabies what they don't want to hear.

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    A better solution would be accept the inevitable and adapt or perish as humankind can't do a thing about it despite it's best efforts. Remember, extinction is the rule not an exception on planet Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpenproletariat View Post
    There's no solution to the problem unless we --


    increase gasoline taxes and

    increase electricity bills for energy produced by coal.


    Someone has to tell the crybabies what they don't want to hear.
    Cry babies? Is that the power producers or the coal mine owners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelo View Post
    A better solution would be accept the inevitable and adapt or perish as humankind can't do a thing about it despite it's best efforts. Remember, extinction is the rule not an exception on planet Earth.
    Ok, so why not say the same thing for high rate of Islamic immigration. Just adapt.

    But you are saying that human induced climate change iis not happening.

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