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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez vs. Mike Huckabee

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Takes Down Mike Huckabee: Leave Lying to Your Daughter, 'She’s Much Better at It'
    Former Arkansas Governor Huckabee on Sunday mocked New York Representative Ocasio-Cortez for a speech in which she compared her victory and that of other progressives mid-term to landmark moments in U.S. history, including the moon landing and the civil rights movement.
    Mike Huckabee:
    Ocasio-Cortez compares her election to moon landing. Huh? Big difference. Moon landing was LUNAR, not LOONEY; Moon landing done by ppl who knew what they were doing...those who elected someone who thought there were 3 branches of Congress did NOT. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ification.html
    AOC:
    A Green New Deal will take a level of ambition + innovation on the scale of the moon landing. We’ve been done it before, and can do it again.

    Leave the false statements to Sarah Huckabee. She’s much better at it.

    Also, you haven’t been a Governor of any state for 10+ years now.
    What MH referred to: Ocasio-Cortez compares her election victory to moon landing and U.S. electrification | Daily Mail Online
    Democratic socialist wunderkind Ocasio-Cortez compares her election to landing on the moon and wiring America for electricity saying 'we've done what we thought was impossible'
    • Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 29, spoke at an environmentalist event Friday with other liberal freshman lawmakers
    • She compared her surprising congressional victory, making her America's youngest-even congresswoman, to major watershed events in American history
    • 'We went to the moon. We electrified the nation. We established civil rights. We enfranchised the country,' the Democratic socialist said
    • Then she likened those turning points to what happened November 6 'when so many of us won an election this year'
    • Ocasio-Cortez polled 15,897 votes in the primary election that made her November victory a foregone conclusion in a heavily anti-Trump district
    • There are 214,750 active registered Democrats in the district; fewer than 28,000 cast ballots in the primary
    Her victory in the main election was no surprise, but her victory in the primary was, with her unseating Joseph Crowley, a Representative from that part of New York City for 20 years.

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    He's got a point.

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    The election of people is meaningless.

    What has meaning is what those people elected do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirPoh View Post
    He's got a point.
    He does?

    If we could almost completely get off fossil fuels and convert to green energy (whatever forms that may take) it would be a far bigger accomplishment than the moon landing.

    It baffles me that people like Mike Huckabee will say that America is the greatest nation ever, but then quickly turn around and say "We aren't capable of doing that" when it comes to things like green energy and health care.

    We had an opportunity to get off the teat of ME petroleum after 9/11. I thought of it more as a Manhattan Project type of undertaking we could've engaged in rather than a New Deal thing, but the result would've been the same. The U.S. could have emerged from 9/11 with a massive government program to develop new energy and underused types of energy, which would've resulted in innovation, jobs, and a much clearer planet. Instead, we did the Republican thing and invaded Iraq. Seventeen years later and we're still Saudi Arabia's bitch. And Huckabee seems fine with that.

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    She got elected. She didn't almost completely get off fossil fuels and convert to green energy.

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    She did exaggerate. Mike Huckabee was an asshole. Isn't he supposed to be all Christiany and stuff? Wouldn't mean not trying to belittle people publicly, calling her "looney"?

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    A little bit more context. She was not talking about just her election, it seems she was referring to the election of many progressives, which even the Democratic leadership didn't seem to think would happen. The idea being when a lot of people work together they can accomplish something that was thought impossible.

    'We've done what we thought was impossible,' she told a small crowd who braved 40-degree weather.
    'We went to the moon. We electrified the nation. We established civil rights. We enfranchised the country. We dig deep, and we did it. We did it when no one else thought that we could. That's what we did when so many of us won an election this year.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
    The idea being when a lot of people work together they can accomplish something that was thought impossible.
    When they accomplish something she can crow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
    The idea being when a lot of people work together they can accomplish something that was thought impossible.
    When they accomplish something she can crow.
    But that was the point of the speech. It is hard to accomplish something when people are ambivalent or disinterested in it. When people think there is a good chance of reaching an 'impossible' goal, then it is easier to get them to work for it, to actually accomplish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
    The idea being when a lot of people work together they can accomplish something that was thought impossible.
    When they accomplish something she can crow.
    But that was the point of the speech. It is hard to accomplish something when people are ambivalent or disinterested in it. When people think there is a good chance of reaching an 'impossible' goal, then it is easier to get them to work for it, to actually accomplish it.
    She should wait until she accomplishes something before she talks about what is necessary to accomplish something.

    Until then just do it.

    She has my support already.

    What she needs to do is expand her support.

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