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    Where do you think the desire to move your arm comes from?

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    Again you try to mask things. Please distinguish between urge, thirst, and desire.. This should be interesting.

    Then there is the distinction between urge and intention even though readiness precedes them both. Libit wasn't studying intention he was studying whether preparation for movement signalled as readiness to act preceded urge similar to what was found in Cannon-Bard structured sequence or followed James-Lang urge preceded readiness structured sequence.

    I believe he was pretty sure the Cannon Bard paradigm extended to cognitive neural activity. Only if urge (intention) precedes neural readiness can autonomy be supported. It wasn't. So down goes all that 2500 to 250 years ago fiction about the distinction between man intentional God and other animal machine.

    The distinction isn't reflexive versus intentional its between unintentional and intentional

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Where do you think the desire to move your arm comes from?
    When the sensation of thirst reaches a threshold the mind decides how it will satisfy it. There are many ways to do it.

    If the cup is there the mind just tells the brain to move the arm and get it if that is the choice.

    The desire to pick up the cup flows from the mind's choice of what it wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
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    Where do you think the desire to move your arm comes from?
    When the sensation of thirst reaches a threshold the mind decides how it will satisfy it. There are many ways to do it.

    If the cup is there the mind just tells the brain to move the arm and get it if that is the choice.

    The desire to pick up the cup flows from the mind's choice of what it wants.

    You are saying that the mind is an independent observer of the activity of the brain and that at some point it decides to intervene using it's own independent will? Is that correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
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    Where do you think the desire to move your arm comes from?
    When the sensation of thirst reaches a threshold the mind decides how it will satisfy it. There are many ways to do it.

    If the cup is there the mind just tells the brain to move the arm and get it if that is the choice.

    The desire to pick up the cup flows from the mind's choice of what it wants.

    You are saying that the mind is an independent observer of the activity of the brain and that at some point it decides to intervene using it's own independent will? Is that correct?
    You don't observe thirst. You experience it.

    The mind is that which experiences all things.

    Nothing is experienced in any other way.

    To be experienced means to be experienced by a mind.

    The brain is not experiencing. It is creating things for the mind to experience.

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