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    Hardly a little word.

    It is what gives meaning to life.

    The autonomous mind makes life worth living.

    Your antagonism to your autonomous mind is not interesting.

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    Autonomous mind is an assumption. Given the evidence from physics, neuroscience, case studies, experiments, evaluations, etc, autonomy of mind is a false assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Autonomous mind is an assumption. Given the evidence from physics, neuroscience, case studies, experiments, evaluations, etc, autonomy of mind is a false assumption.
    You have no evidence that explains how the mind works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Autonomous mind is an assumption. Given the evidence from physics, neuroscience, case studies, experiments, evaluations, etc, autonomy of mind is a false assumption.
    You have no evidence that explains how the mind works.
    Yawn....we are back to that Red Herring again.

    No need to explain how a brain generates mind order to understand that it is in fact the brain that generates mind. That is the point you dance around.

    You dance around the the physics of cognition, the timing between input and response, experiments, case studies, analysis and so on, all ignored by you while repeating your notion of autonomy of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Autonomous mind is an assumption. Given the evidence from physics, neuroscience, case studies, experiments, evaluations, etc, autonomy of mind is a false assumption.
    You have no evidence that explains how the mind works.
    No need to explain how a brain generates mind order to understand that it is in fact the brain that generates mind. That is the point you dance around.
    I don't dance around this dense shit I am forced to wade through it constantly.

    It is meaningless.

    Knowing the thing that creates the mind tells us absolutely nothing about the nature of the mind or the capabilities of a mind once created.

    Saying "the brain created it" over and over mindlessly is totally meaningless.

    Talking about the physics of some phenomena you don't understand is stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    Hardly a little word.
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post

    It is what gives meaning to life.

    The autonomous mind makes life worth living.

    Your antagonism to your autonomous mind is not interesting.


    When you can explain why irrational explanations served man's interests for thousands resulting in nothing war, disease and harm, to finally be replaced by empirically derived explanations that works then I'll consider the meaning of your autonomous worth of being ridden with war, disease and harm.

    Hell, I might even invent some God or another. Hell, there's another invention of the autonomous mind.

    Look after you get tired of admiring your Barlow Face detector you might consider whether there is any relevance to it being found in the minds of cats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromderinside View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    Hardly a little word.
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post

    It is what gives meaning to life.

    The autonomous mind makes life worth living.

    Your antagonism to your autonomous mind is not interesting.


    When you can explain why irrational explanations served man's interests for thousands resulting in nothing war, disease and harm, to finally be replaced by empirically derived explanations that works then I'll consider the meaning of your autonomous worth of being ridden with war, disease and harm.

    Hell, I might even invent some God or another. Hell, there's another invention of the autonomous mind.

    Look after you get tired of admiring your Barlow Face detector you might consider whether there is any relevance to it being found in the minds of cats.
    What is not autonomous about the king who orders others to fight his war?

    Or the man who fights it because he is too much a coward not to?

    What is not autonomous about the preacher having position and prestige telling stories to people who autonomously want to believe them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post

    No need to explain how a brain generates mind order to understand that it is in fact the brain that generates mind. That is the point you dance around.
    I don't dance around this dense shit I am forced to wade through it constantly.

    It is meaningless.

    Knowing the thing that creates the mind tells us absolutely nothing about the nature of the mind or the capabilities of a mind once created.

    Saying "the brain created it" over and over mindlessly is totally meaningless.

    Talking about the physics of some phenomena you don't understand is stupidity.
    Now you are crying about it. You dance like a Ballerina.

    You are on your own on this issue. Your idea of autonomy of mind is not supported by research,evidence or anything else objective. You base your notion on subjective experience, even while ignoring how your subjective experience is being produced by your brain.

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    If he's doing ballet he's doing it poorly on imaginary crutches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post

    No need to explain how a brain generates mind order to understand that it is in fact the brain that generates mind. That is the point you dance around.
    I don't dance around this dense shit I am forced to wade through it constantly.

    It is meaningless.

    Knowing the thing that creates the mind tells us absolutely nothing about the nature of the mind or the capabilities of a mind once created.

    Saying "the brain created it" over and over mindlessly is totally meaningless.

    Talking about the physics of some phenomena you don't understand is stupidity.
    Now you are crying about it. You dance like a Ballerina.

    You are on your own on this issue. Your idea of autonomy of mind is not supported by research,evidence or anything else objective. You base your notion on subjective experience, even while ignoring how your subjective experience is being produced by your brain.
    Knowing the mind is created by some unknown activity will never tell you what the mind is or what it can do.

    Droning over and over "the brain created it" is a sign of serious stupidity and blindness to rational thought.

    The autonomy of mind is demonstrated by a mind that chooses to believe something. Even if it is stupidity.

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