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    Parents horrified after priest used teen's funeral to condemn suicide

    https://www.stltoday.com/news/nation...60ef66d9b.html

    When Maison Hullibarger died by suicide on Dec. 4, his parents - devout Catholics - began planning a funeral that would celebrate their 18-year-old son's life.

    He was a brother to five siblings, an athlete and teammate, a strong criminal justice student at the University of Toledo and passionate fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers. And because the priest at their Temperance, Michigan, parish didn't personally know their son, Jeffrey and Linda Hullibarger met with him before the funeral to discuss what they wanted in the homily.

    The Hullibargers were detailed, they said, and Father Don LaCuesta took notes.

    "We wanted him to celebrate how Maison lived," Linda Hullibarger told the Detroit Free Press, "not how he died."

    Instead, during the funeral at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Catholic Church, the Hullibargers listened from the pews as the priest spoke the word "suicide" six times

    He told mourners, local media reported, that Maison may be denied admittance to heaven because of the way he died. LaCuesta wondered aloud, the Hullibargers said, if Maison had repented enough in the eyes of God.

    "He basically called our son a sinner," Linda told the Toledo Blade.

    "We looked at each other and said, 'What is he doing?" Jeffrey said in an interview with the newspaper. "We didn't ask for this."

    Eventually, Jeffrey decided to intervene and walked to the pulpit.

    "Father," he whispered, "Please stop."

    But LaCuesta kept going, the Hullibargers recounted in local news reports. When the service finally ended, they told the priest he was no longer welcome at Maison's gravesite burial - where the teen's family and friends decided to say everything LaCuesta hadn't.

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    Suicide ought to be condemned.

    I don't know why people think the priest and The Church offer an a la carte menu of preferential options where you can vet what you do and don't hear.

    If this funeral was for a victim of gun violence the priest might want to condemn guns.
    It the funeral was for a 99 year old the priest might celebrate their long and happy life.

    You don't get to 'shop around' for the sock-puppet priest who will say what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    Suicide ought to be condemned.

    I don't know why people think the priest and The Church offer an a la carte menu of preferential options where you can vet what you do and don't hear.

    If this funeral was for a victim of gun violence the priest might want to condemn guns.
    It the funeral was for a 99 year old the priest might celebrate their long and happy life.

    You don't get to 'shop around' for the sock-puppet priest who will say what you want.
    Exactly. The lesson for these naive Catholics is that they should not expect kindness from a cruel and stupid religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    Suicide ought to be condemned.

    I don't know why people think the priest and The Church offer an a la carte menu of preferential options where you can vet what you do and don't hear.

    If this funeral was for a victim of gun violence the priest might want to condemn guns.
    It the funeral was for a 99 year old the priest might celebrate their long and happy life.

    You don't get to 'shop around' for the sock-puppet priest who will say what you want.
    How do you accept so easily this cult that prioritised retaining political power over protecting its children from its priests, and which in this case can't comfort grief because the priority is laying down the law?

    I'm genuinely curious. This priest isn't a shepherd, he's a sadist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfield View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    Suicide ought to be condemned.

    I don't know why people think the priest and The Church offer an a la carte menu of preferential options where you can vet what you do and don't hear.

    If this funeral was for a victim of gun violence the priest might want to condemn guns.
    It the funeral was for a 99 year old the priest might celebrate their long and happy life.

    You don't get to 'shop around' for the sock-puppet priest who will say what you want.
    Exactly. The lesson for these naive Catholics is that they should not expect kindness from a cruel and stupid religion.
    That's nailing it! I've witnessed the same behavior at funerals.

    A person can be compassionate, but the business of religion is as impersonal and cruel as a medieval dungeon. Why a person would prostrate themselves to and glorify an institution and its god while a loved one lies dead is a study on abnormal human psychology, certainly not healthy expectations and perceptions.

    I have attended these services where the formality of god invocation was perfunctory, and the pain and loss of the family was the thrust of the service, but that was only because of the warmth of the celebrant, certainly not attributable to a cold, impersonal religion.

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    They should change Father Don LaCuesta's name to Father Douchebag.

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    Yeah, this wasn't a speaker at the memorial service who got up when they asked, does anyone want to share their thoughts or memories of the deceased.
    This was an official srrvice, a sacrament, and he's doing his job.

    American Catholics always amaze me when they think they have a say in the Church's operations, policies, spending... The organization doesn't see you as partners, or even consumers, but inventory.

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    A bit like same-sex 'marriage'.
    You don't just walk into the Catholic Church and tell them to redefine the sacrament to suit you.
    These arent wedding cake bakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    American Catholics always amaze me when they think they have a say in the Church's operations, policies, spending... The organization doesn't see you as partners, or even consumers, but inventory.
    Lots of parishes consolidating these days. I was amused how the bishops wanted feedback on how best to make these consolidations work when anyone with a hint of intellect would know the boss has already decided what's to occur.

    I think it's the whole obedience thing among catholics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    A bit like same-sex 'marriage'.
    You don't just walk into the Catholic Church and tell them to redefine the sacrament to suit you.
    These arent wedding cake bakers.
    Of course not. If a private organization is officially against same sex or interracial marriage, they shouldn't be forced to perform one. The only issue with that topic is when those private organizations try to get it banned by public institutions.

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