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    The AOC attack ad was a complete failure (opinion) - CNN - talk about an own goal.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez endorsement - YouTube - she endorses the re-election of Senator Ed Markey, D-MA. She credits him with taking her seriously, an unknown first-timer, and for sponsoring her big idea in the Senate -- the Green New Deal.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "We have to do more than take back the WH.
    We must do so w/ a stronger Democratic Party that fights for working people - & that includes newcomers+longtime fighters.
    I’m proud to endorse my #GreenNewDeal co-author + climate champion @EdMarkey for Senate. https://t.co/WrYmTaJrnn" / Twitter


    August last year: Ocasio-Cortez visits Maine, praises local ‘democratic socialism’ | Beacon - "Ocasio-Cortez posted a photo to Twitter of her under one of Acadia National Park’s stone bridges within the park’s network of carriage trails, constructed by John D. Rockefeller Jr. — son of Standard Oil tycoon John D. Rockefeller."
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Back home after a lovely few days off enjoying US examples of Democratic Socialism, like:
    - Acadia National Park
    - Café Co-ops (Def Top 5 best breakfast sandwiches I’ve ever had 🍳)
    - Supporting worker-owned businesses
    - Bonus: Spotted a @PPact helping people, per usual✌🏽💜 https://t.co/xmiYXutfpS" / Twitter


    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Unlikely Rise: AOC On Her Family, Generational Differences & More | TIME - YouTube (from last spring) - how her father's last words to her were "make me proud" and how a lot of people went to his funeral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    I agree that AOC is rather thin on foreign policy.
    Which is ironic given that one of her degrees is in international affairs.
    Late in her primary campaign, she slammed Israel for attacking and killing some Palestinian demonstrators.
    "Demonstrators" is too weak a word. Israel is dealing with violent rioters who do things like launch bombs using their slings.

    A little later, she was asked about it, and she struggled with it before conceding that she's not very expert in the Israel-Arab issue. More recently, she has pledged not to go to Israel if her good friends Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar are not allowed to go. She doesn't support the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement, but she rejects official opposition to it.
    Way too straddle that fence, Corporal Sandy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    Miami is very close to sea level, and it is in a region that suffers numerous hurricanes. Global warming has been making hurricanes stronger, and a strong one like a Category 5 one could be devastating.
    That doesn't mean that it will "disappear" within a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    Black Lives Matter is an obvious successor to the civil-rights movement,
    They are not really a successor to the civil-rights movement but to the black nationalism of the 60s and 70s. Black Panthers, Black Liberation Army, black radicals murdering cops.

    feminism isn't, either then or now.
    The dominant form of contemporary feminism is an ideological successor of the 2nd wave feminism of the 70s and 80s. Andrea Dworkin, Catherine MacKinnon, Gloria Steinem and the like.

    According to some Sixties feminists,
    ... all heterosexual sex is rape.

    Ocasio-Cortez, because of her age and gender, often seems to be held to a different standard than other politicians.
    By the left, she is held to a much lower one.


    “It’s not the same thing as … the president lying about immigrants,” she said.
    This conflation of illegals with all immigrants really infuriates me. There is most definitely a distinction that must be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    Miami is very close to sea level, and it is in a region that suffers numerous hurricanes. Global warming has been making hurricanes stronger, and a strong one like a Category 5 one could be devastating.
    That doesn't mean that it will "disappear" within a few years.
    Miami may not completely disappear, but a big enough hurricane may devastate enough of it for much of it to be abandoned as too expensive to rebuild.

    Miami is a huge sitting duck for the next hurricane
    How would the region, which continues growing and sprouting waterfront condos, stand up to a massive surge of water like those produced by Hurricane Katrina or Superstorm Sandy?

    "It won't survive," Federal Emergency Management Agency Administrator Craig Fugate says bluntly.
    So AOC may not have made a very big overstatement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    Miami may not completely disappear, but a big enough hurricane may devastate enough of it for much of it to be abandoned as too expensive to rebuild.
    I don't know about that. Cat5 storms are not new. Hurricane Andrew hit very close to Miami in 1991. And Miami proper is somehwhat protected by barrier islands like the ones Miami Beach sits on. Miami Beach will be much more fucked than the city proper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    Miami may not completely disappear, but a big enough hurricane may devastate enough of it for much of it to be abandoned as too expensive to rebuild.

    Miami is a huge sitting duck for the next hurricane
    How would the region, which continues growing and sprouting waterfront condos, stand up to a massive surge of water like those produced by Hurricane Katrina or Superstorm Sandy?

    "It won't survive," Federal Emergency Management Agency Administrator Craig Fugate says bluntly.
    So AOC may not have made a very big overstatement.
    Hey, now there's an idea! When next elections come around and AOC is shown the door, she could start a new career as a an extraordinary psychic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelo View Post
    Hey, now there's an idea! When next elections come around and AOC is shown the door, she could start a new career as a an extraordinary psychic!
    There are more things in Heaven and Earth, my friend, than are dreamt of in Fox News. Seriously, many right-wingers live in their own intellectual bubble.

    “A Message from the Future with AOC”: New Film Imagines World Transformed by the Green New Deal | Democracy Now! - has a transcript of that video's narration.

    How Molly Crabapple painted a vision of AOC’s Green New Deal - YouTube - "We wanted to capture the idea that, yes, we can do great things," says Molly Crabapple. "We can be resilient. We can come together."

    Molly Crabapple🇵🇷 on Twitter: "I love @AOC for many reasons but one of the more personal is her embrace of art and beauty at a time when both are so often devalued
    (This aesthetic was often used by progressive American orgs, including trade unions, in the 1910s-30s who were optimistic for a better world) https://t.co/YEPrK6NfM3" / Twitter


    Molly Crabapple🇵🇷 on Twitter: "@AOC AOC’s posters remind me of this lovely @workmenscircle illustration from 1909.
    Workers must have bread and also roses https://t.co/S78xEigAYc" / Twitter


    Molly Crabapple🇵🇷 on Twitter: "@AOC @workmenscircle And take it from an illustrator- the only way AOC’s posters look “Soviet” is if all political illustration is Soviet
    Classic Soviet poster design was either hard, angular, abstract constructivism or painterly, red-flag draped Socialist Realism. Neither look anything like AOC’s" / Twitter

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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Talks Winning Congressional Primary Election in New York - how her opponent Joe Crowley was hardly ever around.
    "I was nominated at first by a group called Justice Democrats. They were trying to essentially field non-corporate candidates in the 2018 midterm election,” she says. “They were looking for people with a history of community service and my name had come across their desk, and they called.”

    It was the right call, at the right time. “I had actually just gotten off of camp at Standing Rock. I was there with the Lakota Sioux and all of the Native peoples that were really standing up to protect the water supply in the Midwestern United States,” she says. “That experience was very personally important and transformative, and I kind of left feeling like I had to do more, and I didn’t know what that was. When I got that call, I just felt like, 'OK, the universe is telling me something, so I’m going to listen.'"
    The universe? A rather odd turn of phrase. Here it is again:
    A no-nonsense conversation between Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Kerry Washington
    WASHINGTON: I remember reading an interview where you said you believe in working hard and leaving the rest up to the universe, that you didn’t even watch the polls as they were trickling in on election night. What is your connection to God and the universe?

    OCASIO-CORTEZ: I really connect with Martin Luther King Jr.’s concept of a moral universe—the idea that we can operate within a moral framework and tap into something powerful. Growing up in a community that’s so diverse, I felt really blessed to see all the different ways that our community taps into that same idea. Among all of these faiths, there’s a shared faith that’s very powerful. So I didn’t watch the polls, because I knew that the best thing we could do is work as hard as we can for what is right and what is good.
    She also says:
    OCASIO-CORTEZ: I’d have to check this, but I remember reading that the average worker in the United States generates about $60 per hour worth of value. But the average hourly income is far, far lower than that.
    That number is pretty much correct for (GDP)/(number of workers) for 52 weeks per year and 40 hours per week. I find $58/hour. For the average hourly income, I checked on the median, since 50% are above it and 50% are below it. It's $23/hour, about 1/2.5 of the GDP value. Not "far, far lower", but still significantly lower.

    The wage share of GDP is currently around 62%, and it was more like 72% in the 1950's. The present wage share makes the mean wage $36/hour. Somewhat higher than the median wage, but not much higher.
    One of the issues facing humanity is that our material technology is outpacing our moral technology. So I think that moving toward a more morally sophisticated society will allow us to have a more human society—one where people are able to feed themselves and house themselves.
    I think that she's correct over a long view of history, and by long I mean all the way back to the invention of agriculture.

    I like this: “It’s not enough to say, ‘I’m a good person.’ The question is, ‘Am I doing good work?'”—Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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    She also says:
    OCASIO-CORTEZ: I’d have to check this, but I remember reading that the average worker in the United States generates about $60 per hour worth of value. But the average hourly income is far, far lower than that.
    That number is pretty much correct for (GDP)/(number of workers) for 52 weeks per year and 40 hours per week. I find $58/hour. For the average hourly income, I checked on the median, since 50% are above it and 50% are below it. It's $23/hour, about 1/2.5 of the GDP value. Not "far, far lower", but still significantly lower.
    The bolded sentence is a non-sequitur. You can't check the average by checking the median. And you can't check the median BECAUSE 50% are above it and 50% are below it; that's just the definition of a median.

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