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    Harvard Astronomer Says Interstellar Object Could Be Alein

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/harv...ject-1.4252951

    I watched this guy today on a news segment. He claims a turd like object has a good chance of being a alien manufactured object, even a probe to 'spy on us', his words. To him because it looks atypical it must have been manufactured.

    It appears science does not necessarily equate to rational thought.

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    I knew it. Woo Woos are invading everywhere.

    Then again some of our best scientists are SF's best SF writers as well.

    Imagine. Solution for undefined is accident and for go-to-zero is change. Now there's a field explaining mass and we call that the final element in The Standard Model, except for black energy and matter that is.

    Its a real problem being out here on the outer portions of a small galaxy in a super cluster of galaxies is knowing we can't get up close and personal to things beyond maybe ten to twelve light years away when we know the universe is at least 65 billion light years across.

    So we see bubbles in energy and matter traces suggesting the blacks are frameworks for organization of our matter and energy universe.

    Natural to convert parsecs to furlongs per fortnight.

    Now our by using standard candle, what we think is a standard supernova, we get results that suggest universe is accelerating it's expansion,.

    Wow, er, woo woo.

    Thing is the models we have created predict phenomena pretty well whenever and wherever we look.

    Gotta give Archimedes credit. He, without telescopes, calculated a round earth of about 25000 miles diameter in modern units twenty-three hundred years ago.

    Eyup. From knots for measuring constructions to clay indentations for tracking transactions to a written language to the modern era in less than 8000 years. Makes one wonder what all those humans were doing for the last 200,000 years beyond populating the earth two or three times, discovering art controlling fire to manufacture bronze, copper, then iron tools and weapons.

    On the shoulders of the curious comes modern giants like Trump to snuff it all out.*

    *arriving at a logical conclusion based on a rants of nutty professor near Boston, or just going over the top because I have idle time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/harv...ject-1.4252951

    I watched this guy today on a news segment. He claims a turd like object has a good chance of being a alien manufactured object, even a probe to 'spy on us', his words. To him because it looks atypical it must have been manufactured.

    It appears science does not necessarily equate to rational thought.
    What’s not rational about it? He’s saying that it can be ruled out as a possibility, not that he thinks it’s probably aliens or anything like that.

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    Going on their estimates, ''according to their model, approximately two objects from outside the solar system pass through Mercury’s orbit annually, and some of those objects crash into the sun at a rate of about one every 30 years'' it seems that interstellar space is teeming with objects that were ejected from their own solar systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Going on their estimates, ''according to their model, approximately two objects from outside the solar system pass through Mercury’s orbit annually, and some of those objects crash into the sun at a rate of about one every 30 years'' it seems that interstellar space is teeming with objects that were ejected from their own solar systems.
    two objects of what size? same or larger than this thing?
    In any case, highly elongated shape is rather unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Going on their estimates, ''according to their model, approximately two objects from outside the solar system pass through Mercury’s orbit annually, and some of those objects crash into the sun at a rate of about one every 30 years'' it seems that interstellar space is teeming with objects that were ejected from their own solar systems.
    A cosmic trash collector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Going on their estimates, ''according to their model, approximately two objects from outside the solar system pass through Mercury’s orbit annually, and some of those objects crash into the sun at a rate of about one every 30 years'' it seems that interstellar space is teeming with objects that were ejected from their own solar systems.
    two objects of what size? same or larger than this thing?
    In any case, highly elongated shape is rather unusual.
    It doesn't matter what size object, or shape, if there are two interstellar objects on average passing through Mercury's orbit per year, that seems to be lot of objects given the sheer volume of interstellar space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/harv...ject-1.4252951

    I watched this guy today on a news segment. He claims a turd like object has a good chance of being a alien manufactured object, even a probe to 'spy on us', his words. To him because it looks atypical it must have been manufactured.

    It appears science does not necessarily equate to rational thought.
    What’s not rational about it? He’s saying that it can be ruled out as a possibility, not that he thinks it’s probably aliens or anything like that.
    Interpreting a picture of a distant object that looks like a big space turd with a meaure of certainty as being a non natural object is irrational based on the evidence, IMO.

    Ever read Clark's Rendezvous With Rama?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendezvous_with_Rama

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    Interpreting a picture of a distant object that looks like a big space turd with a meaure of certainty as being a non natural object is irrational based on the evidence, IMO.

    Ever read Clark's Rendezvous With Rama?
    That 'picture' wasn't actually a picture. It was an artist's interpretation of what it could look like judging from the light curve. Whatever it is, it wasn't spotted until it was well on it's way out of the solar system. The cigar shape was one interpretation. Another is that it could look more like a pancake and the latest I have seen is that it could be an agglomeration of small rocks and dust spread out that are the remains of a comet - sorta like the broken up Comet Shoemaker–Levy 9 that hit Jupiter a while back but with the parts much closer, gravitationally bound, and all the volatiles already long ago ejected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Going on their estimates, ''according to their model, approximately two objects from outside the solar system pass through Mercury’s orbit annually, and some of those objects crash into the sun at a rate of about one every 30 years'' it seems that interstellar space is teeming with objects that were ejected from their own solar systems.
    two objects of what size? same or larger than this thing?
    In any case, highly elongated shape is rather unusual.
    It doesn't matter what size object, or shape, if there are two interstellar objects on average passing through Mercury's orbit per year, that seems to be lot of objects given the sheer volume of interstellar space.
    1cm object is quite different from 500meter object - less visible and obviously more common.

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