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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    A better one. A criminal is sentenced to ne hanged. When asked if he had a last request he asked when walking to gallows if he could step in distances of 1/2 the remaining distance and it was grated.

    Will he be hanged?
    He will very quickly get to a point where he is unable to move half the distance he just moved previously.

    And in the real world it is impossible to move exactly 1/2 of any distance.

    The constraints of the real world which do not permit an infinite division of anything will still exist.

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    This short novel by Victor Hugo is a good (fictional) first person perspective on execution:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_La..._Condemned_Man

    I thought I would bring this up in relation to the discussion of how stressful execution is for the condemned.

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    Another fake paradox.

    The condemned prisoner will be surprised that they weren't executed on the preceding day. Therefore the judge's requirement for an element of surprise whilst on death row has been acheived.

    And by not executing the prisoner until the very last day, they have fulfilled the judge's requirement that the prisoner not know which day it would be.

    Note that the prisoner remains ignorant right up until one minute to midnight the day before they are executed and even then they still couldn't be sure whether that was the day.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mock_execution

    A mock execution is a stratagem in which a victim is deliberately but falsely made to feel that their execution...is imminent or is taking place. It may be staged for an audience or a subject who is made to believe that they are being led to their own execution. This might involve blindfolding the subjects, making them recount last wishes, making them dig their own grave, holding an unloaded gun to their head and pulling the trigger, shooting near (but not at) the victim, or firing blanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speakpigeon View Post
    We're talking about a real-world sentence...

    The court sentenced the criminal to be hanged.

    The court also imposed, on humanitarian grounds, as a condition for the execution of the sentence, that which day the hanging takes place had to be unknown in advance to the criminal himself, and this up until the very moment the guards come to take him to be hanged.

    Can this real-world sentence be executed.

    Please specify if you think this is a paradox.

    If not why?

    If it is a paradox, how do you propose to solve it?
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    I note that the sentence does not say that the hanging will kill him only that he be hung.
    So shoot him and hang his body.
    The criminal is expected to be hung so the shooting will not be known in advance to the prisoner.

    The old english death sentence can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Go...upon_your_soul

    Here it notes that the hanging will kill the criminal.
    Last edited by Tigers!; 02-24-2019 at 11:57 AM. Reason: Poor english
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Speakpigeon View Post
    We're talking about a real-world sentence...

    The court sentenced the criminal to be hanged.

    The court also imposed, on humanitarian grounds, as a condition for the execution of the sentence, that which day the hanging takes place had to be unknown in advance to the criminal himself, and this up until the very moment the guards come to take him to be hanged.

    Can this real-world sentence be executed.

    Please specify if you think this is a paradox.

    If not why?

    If it is a paradox, how do you propose to solve it?
    EB
    I note that the sentence does not say that the hanging will kill him only that he be hung.
    So shoot him and hang his body.
    The criminal is expected to be hung so the shooting will not be known in advance to the prisoner.
    Good marks for creativity and logic.

    Still, this would be inhumane treatment. Shooting may not kill the prisoner either and he will suffer atrocious wounds. You're sadistic.

    Second, the shooter will be arrested for causing grievous bodily harm and possibly unwarranted death given that no one was mandated to shoot the prisoner, let alone kill him, as you observed yourself.

    And the judge being a judge will pronounce a sentence of death by hanging upon the shooter, under the same requirement that the hanging should come as a surprise.

    So, we still have a paradox.
    EB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Speakpigeon View Post
    We're talking about a real-world sentence...

    The court sentenced the criminal to be hanged.

    The court also imposed, on humanitarian grounds, as a condition for the execution of the sentence, that which day the hanging takes place had to be unknown in advance to the criminal himself, and this up until the very moment the guards come to take him to be hanged.

    Can this real-world sentence be executed.

    Please specify if you think this is a paradox.

    If not why?

    If it is a paradox, how do you propose to solve it?
    EB
    I note that the sentence does not say that the hanging will kill him only that he be hung.
    So shoot him and hang his body.
    The criminal is expected to be hung so the shooting will not be known in advance to the prisoner.

    The old english death sentence can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Go...upon_your_soul

    Here it notes that the hanging will kill the criminal.
    A criminal who is sentenced to death is 'hanged'. A man who is 'hung' is merely popular with the ladies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Speakpigeon View Post
    We're talking about a real-world sentence...

    The court sentenced the criminal to be hanged.

    The court also imposed, on humanitarian grounds, as a condition for the execution of the sentence, that which day the hanging takes place had to be unknown in advance to the criminal himself, and this up until the very moment the guards come to take him to be hanged.

    Can this real-world sentence be executed.

    Please specify if you think this is a paradox.

    If not why?

    If it is a paradox, how do you propose to solve it?
    EB
    I note that the sentence does not say that the hanging will kill him only that he be hung.
    So shoot him and hang his body.
    The criminal is expected to be hung so the shooting will not be known in advance to the prisoner.

    The old english death sentence can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Go...upon_your_soul

    Here it notes that the hanging will kill the criminal.
    A criminal who is sentenced to death is 'hanged'. A man who is 'hung' is merely popular with the ladies.
    Must be due to that recent rain in Banana-bender land.
    NOTE: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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