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    Quote Originally Posted by excreationist View Post
    Answers in Genesis, etc, date the Flood to be 2350 BC while the pyramids of Giza are dated at 2550 BC. But it seems that a more Biblical dating of the Flood is actually about 3000 BC.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI1yRTC6kGE
    This makes the Biblical record seem more reliable though I still believe in an old earth.
    Aha... which places it between the downfall of Númenor and the creation of the one ring. Interesting.

    Who cares on when wholly fictional events are placed on an imaginary timeline? These are religious myths. Their function is the same, regardless of when in the past they are placed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarpedon View Post
    Zeus was also sometimes referred to as "Almighty." In fact, in my college epic literature class, we compared the depiction of Zeus in the Iliad with Zeus in the Odyssey, with the point that in the later book, he had become more powerful relative to the other gods.

    The tendency to go from polytheism to monotheism through strengthening of the principle god is actually quite common.
    I think iconography is also important. In Christian iconography God is always painted like Zeus. Still. That never changed. For practical purposes it's the same God

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrZoidberg View Post
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    Zeus was also sometimes referred to as "Almighty." In fact, in my college epic literature class, we compared the depiction of Zeus in the Iliad with Zeus in the Odyssey, with the point that in the later book, he had become more powerful relative to the other gods.

    The tendency to go from polytheism to monotheism through strengthening of the principle god is actually quite common.
    I think iconography is also important. In Christian iconography God is always painted like Zeus. Still. That never changed. For practical purposes it's the same God
    In what sense do you mean 'the same God?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
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    Zeus was also sometimes referred to as "Almighty." In fact, in my college epic literature class, we compared the depiction of Zeus in the Iliad with Zeus in the Odyssey, with the point that in the later book, he had become more powerful relative to the other gods.

    The tendency to go from polytheism to monotheism through strengthening of the principle god is actually quite common.
    I think iconography is also important. In Christian iconography God is always painted like Zeus. Still. That never changed. For practical purposes it's the same God
    In what sense do you mean 'the same God?'
    Good question. "The same god" implies that there is a real extant god that the two cultures identify differently. Maybe a better wording would be that both Zeus and the Christian god are beliefs in gods with very different descriptions but use similar iconography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skepticalbip View Post
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    In what sense do you mean 'the same God?'
    Good question. "The same god" implies that there is a real extant god that the two cultures identify differently. Maybe a better wording would be that both Zeus and the Christian god are beliefs in gods with very different descriptions but use similar iconography.
    That's quite possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post

    In what sense do you mean 'the same God?'
    Good question. "The same god" implies that there is a real extant god that the two cultures identify differently. Maybe a better wording would be that both Zeus and the Christian god are beliefs in gods with very different descriptions but use similar iconography.
    That's quite possible.
    Indeed and quite possible because the iconography for each is from the same people in modern times not from those who actually worshipped Zeus or from the early Christians. As I recall the early Greek images of Zeus were generally like a physically fit normal human male and the early Christians considered iconography of their god to be a sin so forbidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excreationist View Post
    Answers in Genesis, etc, date the Flood to be 2350 BC while the pyramids of Giza are dated at 2550 BC. But it seems that a more Biblical dating of the Flood is actually about 3000 BC.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI1yRTC6kGE
    This makes the Biblical record seem more reliable though I still believe in an old earth.
    In the Lord of the Rings, much of the story takes place walking through the woods. Around where I live, I am surrounded by woods. This makes the Middle-Earth record more reliable though I still believe in the coming of men during the Third Age.

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