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    Freaky claims and beliefs pique the curiosity of rational people. A flat-earther is a freak show that you've got to see to believe, which is why people spend time to go see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.G.G. Moogly View Post
    Freaky claims and beliefs pique the curiosity of rational people. A flat-earther is a freak show that you've got to see to believe, which is why people spend time to go see it.
    Is that you Mr. Barnum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
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    How stupid is the idea of a six thousand year world/universe....yet there are those who argue for it, and appear to actually believe what they are arguing for.
    There's a big difference. A huge difference. People who believe in a six thousand year universe swing political power. It's worthy of our attention. Flat Earthers wield no power and never will. It's clearly a club for people who aren't welcome anywhere else and who enjoy life on the fringes and margins of the world. As long as that's all they are, there's zero risk the rest of us. And since their ideas are as idiotic as YECs, then we can ignore them.
    Very good point. I do not know about Europe over here the idea of ancient aliens being the source of civilization has a following. Several cable shows have been on for years.
    Europeans are a cautious and conservative lot. We're mostly into good food and good sex. The middle-class is also into art. These are the only things we'll be truly passionate about. We tend to be agnostic about most things. Ideas like Flat Earth or YEC will float around but not really get a foothold. Europeans seem to avoid joining fan clubs, unless it's sports. Compared to my American friends Europeans read more philosophy and expose themselves to more ideas, especially through literature. I think this acts as a inoculation against getting too crazy.

    We also like being against anything Americans are for, because Europeans feels a bit insecure about once having been the greatest and most powerful, and now most certainly aren't. So the fact that YEC and Flat Earth is big in USA, means we should be against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skepticalbip View Post
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    How stupid is the idea of a six thousand year world/universe....yet there are those who argue for it, and appear to actually believe what they are arguing for.
    There's a big difference. A huge difference. People who believe in a six thousand year universe swing political power. It's worthy of our attention. Flat Earthers wield no power and never will. It's clearly a club for people who aren't welcome anywhere else and who enjoy life on the fringes and margins of the world. As long as that's all they are, there's zero risk the rest of us. And since their ideas are as idiotic as YECs, then we can ignore them.
    In a venn diagram showing those who believe in a six thousand year old universe and those who believe in a flat Earth, there is a significant overlap.
    I was going to call bullshit. Did some googling... yup. You are right. Wow. Mind blown. I've now changed my mind. I think it's worthy of outrage, since creationists certainly are dangerous. I did not make this connection before. Thanks for enlightening me. Seems like this is just Intelligent Design, round 2.

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    The stupid stars are aligning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skepticalbip View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by T.G.G. Moogly View Post
    Freaky claims and beliefs pique the curiosity of rational people. A flat-earther is a freak show that you've got to see to believe, which is why people spend time to go see it.
    Is that you Mr. Barnum?
    This is how the RCC sustained itself for centuries and continues to do so. All those pilgrimage sites had their freak attractions like a vile where the blood came back to life or the rock grotto where a magic lady appeared to children and then made a spring. These are freak show attractions of the first order.

    All flat-earthers need to do to get a real foothold is work in a little religious freakiness. They need to find golden tablets and seer stones, discover a story about the first flat-earther who died for his beliefs, before ascending into the firmament. Once the IRS recognizes them as a religion they're good to go.

    As goofy claims go a flat earth is pretty tame. No one is changing food into a zombie and then eating the zombie and drinking its blood. No one is wearing magic underpanties or funny hats or chastising the money changers. They need to teach how to find your flat zone and become one with your center. Where's their great teacher wearing a flat disc on his or her head? They need to seriously jazz things up, they're nowhere near approaching crazy enough to have a following.

    Somewhere out there is the flattest spot on earth, the holy of holies, the sacred place where you can hear the flatness speaking. Honestly, these guys are amateurs and need a shot in the arm. They actually need a P.T. Barnum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.G.G. Moogly View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.G.G. Moogly View Post
    Freaky claims and beliefs pique the curiosity of rational people. A flat-earther is a freak show that you've got to see to believe, which is why people spend time to go see it.
    Is that you Mr. Barnum?
    This is how the RCC sustained itself for centuries and continues to do so. All those pilgrimage sites had their freak attractions like a vile where the blood came back to life or the rock grotto where a magic lady appeared to children and then made a spring. These are freak show attractions of the first order.

    All flat-earthers need to do to get a real foothold is work in a little religious freakiness. They need to find golden tablets and seer stones, discover a story about the first flat-earther who died for his beliefs, before ascending into the firmament. Once the IRS recognizes them as a religion they're good to go.

    As goofy claims go a flat earth is pretty tame. No one is changing food into a zombie and then eating the zombie and drinking its blood. No one is wearing magic underpanties or funny hats or chastising the money changers. They need to teach how to find your flat zone and become one with your center. Where's their great teacher wearing a flat disc on his or her head? They need to seriously jazz things up, they're nowhere near approaching crazy enough to have a following.

    Somewhere out there is the flattest spot on earth, the holy of holies, the sacred place where you can hear the flatness speaking. Honestly, these guys are amateurs and need a shot in the arm. They actually need a P.T. Barnum.

    Absolutely and the reason for my comment. You are the first I have seen that expressed a recognition of the great market potential there. Old P.T. would be proud of you, with proper marketing this would easily outdo his Fiji Mermaid (or The Fejee Mermaid as he promoted it).
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