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    Media treatment of Bernie Sanders: a story in pictures

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    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-b...b0764d31dc8586



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquis...sal_by_Comcast


    MSNBC gives Biden an extra 3% on live TV to put him over Bernie:


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    https://www.businessinsider.com/bern...ct-win-2018-10


    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/business...-post-for-250m


    Washington Post alters length of bar in graph to inflate Biden's lead over Sanders in poll:


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    https://twitter.com/MaddowBlog/statu...39853573279745


    The report:
    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/201...ocratic-women/


    So, what happens when you don't just look at itemized contributions?


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    Disclaimer: these are not the only examples of media mistreatment of candidates, either in terms of the network/outlet or the candidate, but I'm particularly interested in them because they are so blatant and easy to spot (and because I think Bernie is particularly hated by some--not all--outlets). We always hear about Fox News doing this kind of shit, but it's happening in the liberal media too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post
    Act 1...

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-b...b0764d31dc8586



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquis...sal_by_Comcast


    MSNBC gives Biden an extra 3% on live TV to put him over Bernie:


    Act 2...

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bern...ct-win-2018-10


    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/business...-post-for-250m


    Washington Post alters length of bar in graph to inflate Biden's lead over Sanders in poll:


    Act 3...

    https://twitter.com/MaddowBlog/statu...39853573279745


    The report:
    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/201...ocratic-women/


    So, what happens when you don't just look at itemized contributions?


    ~fin~

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    Disclaimer: these are not the only examples of media mistreatment of candidates, either in terms of the network/outlet or the candidate, but I'm particularly interested in them because they are so blatant and easy to spot (and because I think Bernie is particularly hated by some--not all--outlets). We always hear about Fox News doing this kind of shit, but it's happening in the liberal media too.
    I hate to point out the obvious, but the race is over. The economy continues to boom. 40% of America loves Trump. They will all vote. And that is all the margin that he needs. The dems remain divided. 2020 is over folks. The democratic primary is really about 2024. Biden, Sanders and Warren will be in assisted living before 2024! The dems need to find some younger people who can keep the hope going for 24.

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    If you hate to point out the obvious, then don't, because it isn't obvious to everyone and you haven't given a convincing reason why three candidates as vastly different in their policy positions as Biden, Sanders, and Warren are best grouped (and dismissed) by age. The whole point of Sanders' campaign right now is to build a movement of people, mostly the young, who will eventually represent the left in government and someday run for President. Young candidates aren't automatically better than old candidates, and hope is not inspired by young candidates with the same awful positions as the worst of their forbears.

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    But CNN fails to mention that their polling data does not include anybody younger than 50.


    From about a month ago:


    Thirty-one percent of likely voters between 18 and 29 years old surveyed by Harvard University's Institute of Politics said they prefer the Vermont lawmaker in a hypothetical primary. Former Vice President Joe Biden was the first pick of 20 percent of respondents, while former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas) received 10 percent of the support. No other candidate received more than 5 percent.
    If you want a candidate that inspires hope, don't assume that young people are only inspired by young candidates.
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    We are almost exactly 18 months away from election day. Tell me, what exactitude did the guesswork of May 2015 have, on the subject of November 2016? The electorate is fickle, worse-informed than we've been in generations, addicted to echo-chamber social media for opinion, given to irrational swings to extremes. This trend has at least been noticeable since 1991/2, in the pre-Google age, when Bush One went from undefeatable Gulf War hero to sadsack loser. Trump may have a rock solid 40%, but there's another solid group that will vote for ANY (or nearly any) alternative to Trump.

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    If you want a candidate that inspires hope
    Only an idiot newbie would want a candidate that "inspires hope." This is precisely why the Obama campaign rejected the "hope" message in favor of the "change" message.

    It's not a crusade. It's a goddamned job interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi View Post
    If you want a candidate that inspires hope
    Only an idiot newbie would want a candidate that "inspires hope." This is precisely why the Obama campaign rejected the "hope" message in favor of the "change" message.
    Is it really so different? What do people hope for, if not change? And in the end, of course, 8 years of Obama brought us to where we are today.

    It's not a crusade. It's a goddamned job interview.
    How's that slogan been working out for you, on a scale of 1 - unbearable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post
    Is it really so different?
    Yes, it most certainly is. "Hope" is an ephemeral, nebulous, religious desire that can't ever be fulfilled by any human being, let along a goddamned politician. It's selling a person's own desire to them. It's purely manipulative and deliberately so.

    And in the end, of course, 8 years of Obama brought us to where we are today.
    Because he changed a tremendous amount of policies and procedures that the Bush cabal had implemented (and booby-trapped). Precisely because he understood that the position is as top administrator, not messiah.

    It's not a crusade. It's a goddamned job interview.
    How's that slogan been working out for you, on a scale of 1 - unbearable?
    For fuckheads that don't know shit about what they're talking about, it's pretty fucking unbearable. But by all means continue to preach more and fuck us all once again with another four years of Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post
    But CNN fails to mention that their polling data does not include anybody younger than 50.
    How can you have a final error margin of 6%, if your two only statistically relevant categories have errors over 10%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    How can you have a final error margin of 6%, if your two only statistically relevant categories have errors over 10%?
    The bigger your sample size n, the narrower your confidence interval and margin of error become.

    You split a sample into sub-samples, and your MOE increases.

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