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    Act 1...

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-b...b0764d31dc8586



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquis...sal_by_Comcast


    MSNBC gives Biden an extra 3% on live TV to put him over Bernie:


    Act 2...

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bern...ct-win-2018-10


    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/business...-post-for-250m


    Washington Post alters length of bar in graph to inflate Biden's lead over Sanders in poll:


    Act 3...

    https://twitter.com/MaddowBlog/statu...39853573279745


    The report:
    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/201...ocratic-women/


    So, what happens when you don't just look at itemized contributions?


    ~fin~

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    Disclaimer: these are not the only examples of media mistreatment of candidates, either in terms of the network/outlet or the candidate, but I'm particularly interested in them because they are so blatant and easy to spot (and because I think Bernie is particularly hated by some--not all--outlets). We always hear about Fox News doing this kind of shit, but it's happening in the liberal media too.
    I hate to point out the obvious, but the race is over. The economy continues to boom. 40% of America loves Trump. They will all vote. And that is all the margin that he needs. The dems remain divided. 2020 is over folks. The democratic primary is really about 2024. Biden, Sanders and Warren will be in assisted living before 2024! The dems need to find some younger people who can keep the hope going for 24.
    You must be super worried about Trump then, if age is what you are focused on. Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris and in fact, every candidate except for Biden and Sanders are younger than Trump. Based. on his appearances and speeches and communications at every level, Trump shows a very obvious and serious and extremely concerning intellectual and mental and emotional decline compared with him 20 or even 10 years ago, and certainly compared with all other candidates.

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    Act 329: There Is No Number Between 1 and 3, So Stop Asking About This "2" Thing, You Absolute Dunce, You Fool


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    Sanders is not a Democrat. It doesn't matter that he filed to run as one either before or since, he is not a Democrat. He rightfully should not be mentioned at all in the same breath as the actual Democrats running, let alone in regard to any polling of Democrats, even if there are some who like him.

    On top of that, he is widely hated by a large majority of Democrats and deservedly so. A very good argument can be made that it his fault entirely that we have Trump to begin with.

    He has no privilege; no rights; no automatic inclusion, other than what the bullied saps at the DNC can tolerate. To put it into yiddish, he's a schnorrer. A few years ago, he crashed someone else's party--with his obnoxious friends who were likewise not invited--who then proceeded to eat everything, drink everything, change the music to the shit they like and yelled at everyone to do as they demanded and was just generally rude, boorish and unwelcome and yet not only refused to leave, shat on the floor and indignantly complained that someone had shat on the floor and forced others to clean it up, losing certain people their jobs in the process.

    Some of his immature young friends thought that was all really funny, because they mistakenly believed they were crashing a John Hughes house party, when in fact it was the Joad's house, but their righteous indignation blinded them to the reality of what they thought they were tearing down.

    So, yeah, fuck him and the whore he came out of.

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    ...Act 329, continued

    It's like there's an editorial guideline for article titles that designates Bernie as "he who must not be named"



    Act 330: As Polling Analyst for CNN and Fivethirtyeight, I Present This Wholly Comprehensive Array of Choices That Is Not At All Manufacturing Consent



    Act 331: I dare you to find one rationale, one, that explains the order in which these candidates are listed


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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi View Post
    Sanders is not a Democrat. It doesn't matter that he filed to run as one either before or since, he is not a Democrat. He rightfully should not be mentioned at all in the same breath as the actual Democrats running, let alone in regard to any polling of Democrats, even if there are some who like him.

    On top of that, he is widely hated by a large majority of Democrats and deservedly so. A very good argument can be made that it his fault entirely that we have Trump to begin with.
    He energized the left-wing, got a good deal of his platform on the DNC platform, and supported Hillary Clinton. He didn't cost Clinton the election.

    So, yeah, fuck him and the whore he came out of.
    Jebus man! Tell us how you really feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi View Post
    widely hated by a large majority of Democrats



    Either all of the respondents in this poll are non-Democrats (in which case Bernie has the most stunning crossover appeal of any candidate) or Koy was talking about Democratic politicians, in which case we should be deeply suspicious of a political organization whose officials are unified against a candidate who is loved by the voters they claim to represent. Between the Democratic establishment and the Democratic voters, the voters should be the ones to decide the direction and priorities of the party, otherwise why call themselves "democrats"?

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    It's customary to actually link to your sources. Like this Quinnipac poll from last week, that was specifically addressing Democrats and Independents with a Democratic Lean ("Dem/Lean"), where 88% of Dems were paying "some" to "a lot" of attention to the campaigns as compared to a total of only 77% Dem/Lean.

    When asked if the primary was held today, who they'd vote for, 22% of Dems said Biden, while only 12% said Sanders. Of Dem/Lean, 24% said Biden, and only 10% said Sanders (so even worse among Indies).

    In fact, for the past five months, now, Sanders has never broken 19% total Dems and Dem/Lean combined as the preferred candidate.

    When asked:

    (If Democrat or Democratic leaner) Regardless of how you intend to vote in the Democratic primary for president, which candidate do you think - would be the best leader?
    27% of Dems said Biden to only 12% Sanders. But among the Dem/Lean they tied at 24%. So there's a silver lining for you.

    Unfortunately, it's taken away by the fact that this also means that a good 88% of Dems don't like Sanders, don't think Sanders would make a good leader and that 76% of Dem/Leans feel likewise.

    And when the question is:

    (If Democrat or Democratic leaner) Regardless of how you intend to vote in the Democratic primary for president, which candidate do you think - has the best chance of winning against Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election?
    42% of Dems think Biden and 40% of Dem/Leans think Biden. Sanders? Dem/Leans only give him 21%, while Dems just 11%.

    AND, just to add insult to injury, in regard to:

    (If Democrat or Democratic leaner) Regardless of how you intend to vote in the Democratic primary for president, which candidate do you think - has the best policy ideas?
    Sanders actually beats Biden among Dems (15% to 11% respectively) AND Dem/Leans (a whopping 27% to 11%)!

    Which all adds up to a powerful dislike of the man himself.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/polit...ire/index.html



    While the table has accurate numbers, they've put Sanders at the bottom row and did this weird arrangement of bottom tier candidates above him but to the right. They could just have easily put the bottom tier candidates below him, put him above Warren or on the same level as Warren. It's weird! Never seen a graphic like this one with one guy at the bottom with no one next to him who is tied for second place.

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    In the opening text before that graphic, they put Warren before Sanders and then Sanders before Warren:

    Former Vice President Joe Biden, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders sit atop the field of Democratic presidential contenders among likely primary voters in New Hampshire, according to a new CNN poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire.

    Overall, 24% say they back Biden, while 19% each support Sanders and Warren. The five-point margin between Biden and the two senators matches the survey's margin of sampling error.
    The formatting of the graphic is likely an aesthetic choice so that they don't just have a single column of names and numbers. Regardless, it is unmistakable that they are making clear that Warren and Sanders are tied and Biden is in the lead.

    Note also from the actual poll results that Sanders' numbers have plummeted from April while Warren's have significantly increased, thus rightly putting her ahead of Sanders in the placement, regardless of the current tie:

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    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post
    ...Act 329, continued

    It's like there's an editorial guideline for article titles that designates Bernie as "he who must not be named"



    Act 330: As Polling Analyst for CNN and Fivethirtyeight, I Present This Wholly Comprehensive Array of Choices That Is Not At All Manufacturing Consent



    Act 331: I dare you to find one rationale, one, that explains the order in which these candidates are listed

    This is pretty damn funny, and scary, and sad.

    The media tried to ignore Bernie in 2016. Now he is more prominent and a name known to most people, so they have to engage in these second level games.

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